I never said any of those things so you're just strawmaning my position. And you didn't address any of my points."we started Ukraine war to crush Russia so we can attack China next"
"we started Ukraine war to stalemate Russia and destroy their economy so they'll be useless as a Chinese ally"
"okay we aren't gonna win, and the Russian economy is untouched, but that wasn't our real goal, we were actually trying to destroy Europe, our own allies, because that way, they'll be loyal-ler to us, despite us already having their full loyalty for decades" <- you are here
Cope more yankee lol
My position has always been that the Ukraine conflict is a worthwhile investment for US regardless of the outcome for precisely the reasons I stated. The fact that some delusional loons in Washington might've wanted / expected Russia to collapse is irrelevant. That would've been an additional pleasant surprise for America's hegemonic interests, no doubt, but its failure doesn't negate the fact that US successfully managed to leverage this conflict to vassalized the EU. Prior to the conflict you had dissenting voices within the EU against US's cold war on China, now those voices have largely been silenced.
