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[manqiangrexue]

Right wing politicians are now basically evangelical christians who see Jews as the God's chosen people, so blessing Jews is like being blessed by God to them...
And secular right wing are just neocons, many also Jews, who just see profit in wars.

No, read the link I sent and see the polls and numbers. Don't just try to reason it out with your limited knowledge when there is data. Antisemitism is strong in America's right. That was clearly shown in the link I included in the post you just responded to. There's even a venn diagram. Here's another study:

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So I don't see how this can add to Israel's problems

Israel is extremely dependent on American support and an America that will not whole-heartedly support it will be Israel's demise if it does come. Israel is highly focused on the global PR campaign because it uses borrowed power to commit its crimes; if the lenders are unwilling because they are antisemitic or morally opposed to Israel committing genocide, it's game over.

or antisemitism.

This doesn't even make sense. You don't see how antisemitism among US conservatives can add to antisemitism??

 

[quim]

It's a flimsy alliance given the anti-Semitic dog whistles within mainstream Christianity, like blaming Jews for killing Jesus and 'Synagogue of Satan' in the Book of Revelation. Many Christians believe this is fulfilling the 'Final Days' or 'Second Coming of Christ'. The religious Christian right will never view Jewish people or other religious conservatives like Muslims with equity. If your Lord, Saviour, and Messiah is not Jesus Christ they will not see you as an equal in the balance of power, plus racism and ethnicism is too pervasive among them. Both Conservative Christians and Conservative Jews know this in the back of their mind it superficially serves an ulterior motive for the time being until they are back at each others throats. There's a conflict of interest in their presentation of the Messiah

This was the case for traditional Christians, like old catholics and old protestants. But since 1945 Europe is under US military occupation and priests and pastors who still were antisemitics were banned and new ones pro Israel and pro US were promoted.

In the 60s, in the occupied Rome, took place the II Vatican Concil that changed all traditions and beliefs of the Catholic Church. So Jews are now seen like victims and must be defended.

And the Lutheran Church, whose beliefs legitimized the Holocaust in Germany, also went through purges and today defends the Jews.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Trumped-up charges in order to commit highway robbery.

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All these moves are designed to gauge and test the limits of Chinese government and also in some sense a practice run/example to the western countries considering to enact such measures against Chinese companies in their respective regions. India wants to show its leadership, bold courageous "supapowah" leadership in this manner that it too has power and the wherewithal to confront Chinese Commie aggressions despite most of its materials and intellectual resources needed to further develop their economic aspirations would come from China.

India is indeed a very dangerous country since it already plays like an ascended power that's on par and with cultural affinity and aspirations with the west that colonized, shaped, and built what is India. I agree wholesale with @ChongqingHotPot92 that China/PLA better not drop their ball when it comes to the government of India because in my view, it'll stab China when it's most opportune for them.

 

[quim]

No, read the link I sent and see the polls and numbers. Don't just try to reason it out with your limited knowledge when there is data. Antisemitism is strong in America's right. That was clearly shown in the link I included in the post you just responded to. There's even a venn diagram. Here's another study:

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Israel is extremely dependent on American support and an America that will not whole-heartedly support it will be Israel's demise if it does come. Israel is highly focused on the global PR campaign because it uses borrowed power to commit its crimes; if the lenders are unwilling because they are antisemitic or morally opposed to Israel committing genocide, it's game over.

This doesn't even make sense. You don't see how antisemitism among US conservatives can add to antisemitism??

Conservatives are just racists, but Jews are light skinned, wealthy and new evangelical christian favored.

Right wing people are becoming more and more Israel lovers so.

Your arguments would have made sense 70 years ago, but today they are just outdated.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Conservatives are just racists, but Jews are light skinned, wealthy and new evangelical christian favored.

Right wing people are becoming more and more Israel lovers so.

Your arguments would have made sense 70 years ago, but today they are just outdated.

Once again, read the polls, the most recent one I posted dating 2021 (I'm sure there's even more recent studies if I look for them). Don't imagine things; read data. Can your computer open the links? Display pictures with diagrams?

 

[FriedButter]

According to some Jewish American Author tik-toker whom been black-listed, they say anyone that says anything negative about Israel can get added to a list into a "private" organization (i forgot the name). Anyone can get dox or black-listed (ie someone within the hiring chain that decided to cross check the list). Sounds like its been confirmed with those stories...

Much bigger scale then just less well known people. Also on a side note, sky news interviewed the former Israeli PM and when asked about Palestinian civilians. He got extremely pissed and basically said “fuck them,” they are nazis and don't desire any water.

CEOs (including Wall Street) seek to blacklist Harvard students after signing pro-Palestinian letter​

Several CEOs are urging Harvard University to release the names of the people in the student organizations who signed a pro-Palestinian letter that criticized Israel.

Driving the news: Billionaire Bill Ackman, a hedge fund manager and Harvard alum, said in an online postTuesday that he had been asked by "a number of CEOs" if Harvard would disclose the list of students in the groups that issued a letter that said it held "the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence."

What they're saying: Several business leaders backed Ackman's call — including Sweetgreen's CEO Jonathan Neman, who replied to the post, saying: "I would like to know so I know never to hire these people."

• Jake Wurzak, CEO of DoveHill Capital Management, also replied to the post, saying: "I second this."
• Michael Broukhim, FabFitFun's CEO, added: "We are in as well."

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[quim]

Once again, read the polls, the most recent one I posted dating 2021 (I'm sure there's even more recent studies if I look for them). Don't imagine things; read data. Can your computer open the links? Display pictures with diagrams?

I can belive that there are more antisemitic views among conservatives than among liberals. But I also bet that the majority in US, both conservatives and liberals, are pro Israel and agree with rich Jewish in the mainstream media and large corporations.

And the trend among the right wing is a growing support for Israel due the decline in traditional christians and rise of evangelicals and liberals secular in the US.

 

[manqiangrexue]

I can belive that there are more antisemitic views among conservatives than among liberals. But I also bet that the majority in US, both conservatives and liberals, are pro Israel and agree with rich Jewish in the mainstream media and large corporations.

And the trend among the right wing is a growing support for Israel due the decline in traditional christians and rise of evangelicals and liberals secular in the US.

That's shifting the goalpost substantially. Your original statement was that antisemitism was DEAD with the Nazis. Now you're saying that the majority (>50%) is pro-Israel in the US. Your first statement is wrong but your face-saving second statement is right except it's not what the argument was about. If you look at the 2019 poll I posted, antisemitism was at about 10-20% between the conservatives and liberals, which is clearly not dead. The 2021 article I posted cited antisemitism at about 35% in the conservative population with 61% believing in at least one antisemitic stereotype and 11% believing a majority of them. It also said that a majority of the Americans polled agreed that the Republican party was anti-semitic. So what does this mean?

You said antisemitism is dead in the US. That has been clearly proven to be incorrect. Then you changed that to a majority of Americans are pro-Israel. That's obvious and not even worth debating.

 

[quim]

That's shifting the goalpost substantially. Your original statement was that antisemitism was DEAD with the Nazis. Now you're saying that the majority (>50%) is pro-Israel in the US. Your first statement is wrong but your face-saving second statement is right except it's not what the argument was about. If you look at the 2019 poll I posted, antisemitism was at about 10-20% between the conservatives and liberals, which is clearly not dead. The 2021 article I posted cited antisemitism at about 35% in the conservative population with 61% believing in at least one antisemitic stereotype and 11% believing a majority of them. It also said that a majority of the Americans polled agreed that the Republican party was anti-semitic. So what does this mean?

You said antisemitism is dead in the US. That has been clearly proven to be incorrect. Then you changed that to a majority of Americans are pro-Israel. That's obvious and not even worth debating.

I didn't talk only about the US in my first post, but about the whole right around the west world.

And I spoke about antisemitism as a political force. And as a political force, antisemitism is dead with the Nazis. Or which politicians have been elected using Nazi Germany's speech since 1945? No one that i know.

From your posts with polls, it appears that some "antisemitic" stereotypes still exist in a minority below 30% of conservatives, like think jews controls the media, but how could this be dangerous if right wingers loves rich people?

How can this trend be negative for Israel, if in 1945 there was a great power wanting to kill Jews and today, on the contrary, there is a great power helping Israel and the Jews unconditionally?

 

[siegecrossbow]

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