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jwnz

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His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and I had very productive talks. We reviewed our trade ties and are confident that the commercial linkages between our nations will grow even further in the times to come. The scope for cooperation in grid connectivity, renewable energy, food security, semiconductors and supply chains is immense.


 
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jwnz

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His Royal Highness Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and I had very productive talks. We reviewed our trade ties and are confident that the commercial linkages between our nations will grow even further in the times to come. The scope for cooperation in grid connectivity, renewable energy, food security, semiconductors and supply chains is immense.


Modi forgot to include HSR, civil and military aviation, and EV.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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I think China's JARI USV program should fit the bill as the cheap, expendable, workhorse midget warship that you're describing here.
JARI USV is only ~20 tons. It can even fit on a flatbed trailer.

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The JARI USV is perfectly capable of patrolling contested waters and disputed islets & islands in the SCS and the ECS, plus acting as expendable scouting and air-&-sea early-warning units. Needless to say, though, any USVs of that size is absolutely incapable of meeting the requirements for convoy escort and ASW missions in the "true blue" WestPac, alongside CentPac and the Indian Oceans.

To build what would be minimally/optionally-manned 21st-century counterparts to the destroyer escorts (DDE) of WW2 and the Cold War, China would require ships that are in the low-thousands of tons of displacement range (2000-3000 tons).

Simply put, 053H3-sized or 054-sized warships with substantial short-range (5-5-5 quad-packed SAM) and point-blank (HHQ-10 and/or H/PJ-12) air defense capabilities, substantial ASW capability, alongside minimal/negligible anti-ship (YJ-83) capability, plus 3000-4000 nautical miles of endurance.

Whether said warships are normally, minimally or optionally manned doesn't really matter much in this case.
 

CMP

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Yep, the strategy of "Keep ASML in, SMEE down, Russians out", just like the
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of keep US in, Germany down, Russia out....all the while making it appear US is a benevolent hegemon doing China a "nice favor". To US domestic audience, it would be portrayed as keep the dumbass Chinese dependent/addicted on Western technology fentanyl, keep significant US profits/jobs, and more money for US R&D to continue US technology leadership (from Raimondo horse face herself)

Instead, China is the largest semiconductor market in the world, so the negotiation power is with China, not with US. China should: "keep Huawei in (the game), TSMC down, and Micron completely out"

Qualcomm, Intel, Nvidia, Microsoft, and AMD products should also be kept out.
 

james smith esq

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JARI USV is only ~20 tons. It can even fit on a flatbed trailer.

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The JARI USV is perfectly capable of patrolling contested waters and disputed islets & islands in the SCS and the ECS, plus acting as expendable scouting and air-&-sea early-warning units. Needless to say, though, any USVs of that size is absolutely incapable of meeting the requirements for convoy escort and ASW missions in the "true blue" WestPac, alongside CentPac and the Indian Oceans.

To build what would be minimally/optionally-manned 21st-century counterparts to the destroyer escorts (DDE) of WW2 and the Cold War, China would require ships that are in the low-thousands of tons of displacement range (2000-3000 tons).

Simply put, 053H3-sized or 054-sized warships with substantial short-range (5-5-5 quad-packed SAM) and point-blank (HHQ-10 and/or H/PJ-12) air defense capabilities, substantial ASW capability, alongside minimal/negligible anti-ship (YJ-83) capability, plus 3000-4000 nautical miles of endurance.

Whether said warships are normally, minimally or optionally manned doesn't really matter much in this case.
Thank you I didn’t feel like investing the energy in re-butting that suggestion!
 

4Runner

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...... one more


As I have said many times in the past that, by all practical measure, China is already by far the biggest economy in the world. Food security has been by far the most important element in the Chinese national psych in the past xxxx years. Food+clothing+housing+transportation are the foundational elements in the Chinese society. Compare those 4 elements against each and every other country on this planet, and you will see why Chinese today are so confident as a whole.
 
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