F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

Jeff Head

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The naysayers never give up...even as things go better and better.

I have heard that aircraft carriers are obsolete my whole life from one source or another. Yet every major nation that can do so, i still developing them and putting them out there. There are reasons for this...and they are very good reasons.

They still will not let go of the F-35 being "too expensive," yet even some of the older naysayers have to admit that the price is dropping and continues to do so and is now likely to hit the targets established years ago.

They can say what they will...but the facts, and the successes are beginning to drown out their efforts.
 
now I read Red Flag Memories: Combat Pilot Explains How RF Has Evolved And Why The F-35 Is A Real Game Changer In Future Wars
Red Flag is not a “joke” as some critics have said. It’s an exercise that continues to evolve to replicate the most modern scenarios, where 5th Gen. aircraft are pivotal to the final success.
Red Flag is one of the biggest
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. It is designed to simulate the first 10 days of a conflict with hundreds of assets involved. A friendly force (Blue Air) against an enemy force (Red Air) in a scenario designed to provide pilots with real combat experiences so that they can improve their skill set before heading into actual combat. Something evident in the Red Flag motto as well: “Train as you fight, fight as you train”.

I took part in RF twice during my career: in 2002, I was at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, for a “standard” RF, whereas in 2010 I deployed to Alaska for the so-called Red Flag-Alaska (read
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about the epic transatlantic flight we undertook to take six Tornado bombers back to Italy after RF-A..).


RF has the ability to bring the pilot into a
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, and is also a place where new tactics are born, developed or put to test.

I remember more than 70 aircraft scheduled to depart from Nellis AFB one morning; one big COMAO per day with a scenario featuring different type of threats (Surface-to-Air and Air-to-Air), targets and ROE (Rules of engagement).

Believe me, RF is much more than a normal large-scale exercise!

Ever-changing scenarios
After attending two RFs I can assert I’ve seen scenarios changing a lot throughout the time.

In 2002 we had a well-defined set up, we knew where the enemy was, how it would react to our presence, where the threats were located etc.; in 2010, we faced a “border line” scenario with enemy elements embedded in friendly forces or civilian population, where CDE (Collateral Damage Estimation) was extremely important, where target VID (Visual IDentification) or EOID (Electro Optical IDentification) were the main success factors in the simulated air campaign. In other words, 8 years apart, the RF scenario had evolved to adapt to the ever-changing “combat environment.”

The most recent RFs prove that the exercise continues to change.

For instance, while maintaining the standard coalitions scheme (Blue and Red forces), RF 17-1 had the two teams involved in a “crisis” instead of a war situation. On top of that, not only does the scenario has introduced the latest and most sophisticated and capable threats that require a change in tactics, but it has also moved on a higher level, focusing on the importance of “battlefield information management,” a kind of task the much debated
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is going to master.

Today, taking part in a RF means joining pilots, ground forces, intelligence analysts, cyber and space operators, for testing and training operations at Nellis as well as the
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north of Las Vegas.

All the participants have only one goal in mind: working together to FITS “Find, Identify, Track and Strike” the adversary, to attack forces in a multi-domain battlefield which is based on what we have encountered so far in theater and what we may expect to find in the future wars. This is the real core business and the big change of the most recent RFs.

A RF mission is usually made of 20-25 adversaries: not only aircraft, but also ground-to-air threats, moving and unknown threats etc. In other words, the old fixed scenario has become much more “dynamic” requiring a real-time “combat battlefield” coordinator.

Therefore, the most recent RF scenarios aim to develop the ability to fuse all the combat capabilities. In this context, the F-35 brings to the package the ability to penetrate deep into the most complex and “unknown” environments providing the “overall control” of the battlefield. The F-35, as well as
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, can also work in a complementary fashion with the 4th generation fighters, sharing the information with all the other “players” while providing its own amount of fire power to the team.

Stealth technology (capability to survive and operate effectively where others cannot) combined with 5th generation features (i.e. superior information management), were pivotal to achieve the overall RF’s mini-campaign results.

Although the reliance on a single capability or asset will not be enough to succeed in the future scenarios, the F-35, as a “combat battlefield” coordinator, is a “game changer”: it brings new flexibility, new capabilities and, above all, helps enhancing the “survivability” of the coalition packages.

In a “crisis” situation, the coalition needs to timely react to a fast evolving scenario. With the ability to collect, manage and distribute intelligence data, during RF 17-1 the F-35s were able to geo-locate the threats and target them with the required (simulated) weaponry. Even when the F-35s had expended all their ordnance they were requested to stay in the fight and assist the rest of the package by collecting live battlefield data and passing it to older 4th generation fighters via Link-16.

This is the value-add of 5th generation fighters: their ability to suppress enemy targets while contributing to dominate the air and battlespace supporting “legacy” aircraft.

Believe me, it’s not easy to be fighter, striker and tactical battlefield coordinator at same time! So whatever the ROE (Rules Of Engagement) or t
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were,
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is a pretty impressive achievement.

Analysing the RF 17-1, it is quite impressive (at least from an old-school fighter pilot’s standpoint) to hear that the F-35 flew right on top of the threat, did its job performing successful strikes and providing command and control tasks to other COMAO assets, before returning home unscathed.

The Red Flags I attended in the past did only feature “conventional” fight with no 5th generation asset involved. My job as wingman was to keep visual contact with my leader, follow him while he managed the air-to-air picture and, if everything went well, reach the TGT (target) area, using terrain masking, without being targeted by the red air or ground-to-air systems . Less than a decade ago, the friendly forces did not have the capability to target advanced surface-to-air missile threats with an aircraft like the F-35A and exercise planners were obliged to simulate the engagement of the most heavily defended targets with long-range “standoff” weapons – like Tomahawk cruise missiles – a kind of air strike that would require an
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and would not fit too well in case of moving targets.

That changed significantly with the advent of new generation aircraft. The wingmen flying 5th gen. aircraft today, act as air battle managers who are able to “see” the battlefield in a way an F-15 or an F-16 pilot will never see, whereas their leaders can drop PGMs (Precision Guided Munitions) on ground targets or engage enemy fighters.

In 2002, everybody came in into fight, moving from BVR (Beyond Visual Range) and eventually to
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for a big merge; today, the adversaries roughly know where the stealth fighter *could* be, but they don’t know exactly where they are, how they will approach the target or maneuver to engage the enemy.

Summing up, the real added value of 5th Gen. aircraft (both during RFs and in case of real wars) is their ability to perform information distribution, real-time battlefield management, and dynamic FITS (Find, Identified, Track and Strike) reducing the risk of attrition or collateral damage.
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according to Military.com First Marine Corps F-35B Squadron Readies for Pacific Deployment
Since relocating from
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, Japan, in January, the
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first squadron of F-35B Joint Strike Fighters has been hard at work ironing out the basics of operations in the Pacific, from streamlining supply chains to practicing "hot reloads" and rapid ground refueling from a
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This fall, the unit -- Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 -- will deploy aboard the
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with the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit.

And the squadron is well aware that a sea deployment in the tense Pacific could well entail responding to a regional crisis or a combat contingency, Lt. Col. Richard Rusnok, the squadron's commanding officer, told Military.com in an interview this month.

"When I was a young guy in
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land in 2003, several MEUs ... were in a normal deployment and something happened, and they ended up in a bigger picture," Rusnok said, referring to MEU-based combat units dispatched to Iraq to assist with ground operations during the invasion. "That's something that could really happen. Given the small numbers of F-35s that are out there, I think [combatant commanders] are going to look at that and say, 'I've got six airplanes out on the MEU. I could do something with them.' "

VFMA-121 has hit milestones not just for the Marine Corps, but for the entire Defense Department since late 2012, when it became the first squadron to activate with the 5th-generation fighter.

The unit's reception in the Iwakuni community has been warm, Rusnok said. Iwakuni Mayor Yoshihiko Fukuda attended the March change-of-command ceremony for the unit, and an aviation day at the air station drew a crowd of 210,000, with locals surrounding a displayed
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"six or seven deep," he said.

While the squadron has not begun shipboard training, set to happen later this summer, it's already preparing for the upcoming MEU deployment in practical ways, standing up and proving out logistics capabilities and supply chains for the F-35 in the Pacific.

Working Out Supply Chains
Rusnok noted that, in the space of months, the Joint Strike Fighter program went from being based almost solely in the continental United States to having aircraft in Israel, Italy and Japan, among other locations.

"That's such an incredibly complicated, such an exponential growth in geography that it's almost hard to fathom, if you rewind back several years, to see we're this far along," he said. "What we've done, I think, at Iwakuni is to break down some of these barriers and find out how that airplane is supportable in the Asia-Pacific region."

The squadron has worked with the Pentagon's F-35 Joint Program Office and aircraft maker Lockheed Martin to find faster ways to ship gear and replacement parts, and to send broken parts back to the United States to repair. With a global supply chain and a relatively small number of active aircraft, sometimes a plane in need of a part at
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in Arizona must get it shipped from Iwakuni, and vice versa.

"Iwakuni is distinctly different from CONUS-based units, not only because of the tyranny of distance in the Pacific region, but we also have a wide variety of places we could potentially go," Rusnok said. "Expeditionary maintenance logistics are incredibly important to what we do."

Fighting Skills
The squadron got to hone its fighting skills earlier this month at Northern Edge, a 12-day training exercise at J
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, Alaska.

The exercise included the
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5th-generation
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, as well as numerous fourth-generation fighters, including the
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In the exercise, the largest VFMA-121 has participated in since moving forward to Iwakuni, the F-35s were able to drill on joint operations in the Western Pacific, focusing on aerial interdiction, strike warfare, air-to-air, and offensive counter-air missions.

Rusnok said the F-35's kill ratio from the exercise was not immediately available, though one of the missions he flew racked up eight kills and zero losses, he said, a fairly indicative statistic.

But he doesn't particularly like to talk about those stats.

"Everyone likes to focus on that air-to-air piece. It robs that statistic out of a bigger scenario," he said. "You never hear about the surface-to-air kills we got, the enemy systems degraded. There's a bigger picture."

The exercise, Rusnok said, also tested the F-35's ability to create a "God's-eye view" of the battlespace, with its ability to network and transmit information. Northern Edge showed, he said, that the capability remained strong, even in a dense radio frequency environment that hindered transmissions.

"Where other air systems have problems, we're able to cut through that so easily," he said. "Our ability to resist that kind of attack on the electromagnetic spectrum is huge."

Testing Maintenance Software
The squadron also brought with it a deployable version of its Autonomic Logistics Information System, a software designed to revolutionize F-35 maintenance that has been hampered by production and upgrade delays. A 2016 Government Accountability Office report questioned whether ALIS was truly able to deploy in practice, citing a lack of redundancy in the system.

"Every time we deploy this airplane, we make a decision whether to deploy ALIS or leave it home," Rusnok said.

In this case, he said, the squadron worked with the Air Force to make necessary modifications to host the ALIS deployable operating unit, hardware that travels with the squadron when connectivity is an issue. Overall, Rusnok said, the system worked well during the exercise, and preparing to use it offered insights on its future use.

"Let's say we're going to an Air Force base in Country X -- we know those facilities are now compatible with ALIS," he said. "Maybe we can take advantage of this and put it in our playbook as something we can do, optimize to really cut down on that logistics footprint."

Now back in Japan, the squadron has already begun early preparations for its upcoming deployment, conducting rapid ground refueling tests using the KC-130 Hercules and practicing "hot reloads" in which the aircraft receives new ordnance while the pilot remains in the cockpit.

The unit's pre-deployment preparations will likely provide insights for units that come after. The next F-35B deployment, aboard the amphibious assault ship Essex, will come months after VFMA-121 deploys to the Pacific and is expected to take the Corps' second F-35 squadron, VFMA-211, to the Middle East.

"Come the fall, we're going to have all the pieces in place so we can effectively deploy the squadron," Rusnok said.
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no pricing inside Pratt & Whitney pitches souped up version of the F-35 engine
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Pratt & Whitney is pitching a souped up version of the F-35’s engine that would add thrust and cut down fuel consumption, company officials disclosed on Wednesday.

The upgrade, which the company is calling the F135 Growth Option 1.0, could be cut into the existing production line by the early 2020s, said Matthew Bromberg, president of Pratt & Whitney military engines. Pratt manufactures the F135 for all three F-35 models as well as aircraft purchased by international customers.

“It’s very attractive to the JSF [joint strike fighter] program for several reasons,” Bromberg told journalists during a media day in West Palm Beach, Florida. “It’s very common, so we could drop this upgrade into any one of the three variants. It would be compliant with the partner requirements and go to foreign partner countries. It would be cost neutral, so the upgraded JSF motor with Growth Option 1.0 would be the same price as the existing motor.”

Pratt & Whitney recently completed performance tests of an early version of the system, called the fuel burn reduction demonstrator engine, which proved that the upgrade could improve thrust by up to 10 percent and reduce fuel consumption by up to 6 percent, he said. Reporters got to see the prototype in action during a May 30 demonstration at the company’s test rigs.

Afterwards, Steve Burd, the company’s chief engineer for advanced programs and technology, explained that the company funneled capabilities from two technology development programs — the Navy’s fuel burn reduction effort and the Air Force’s Component and Engine Structural Assessment Research (CAESAR) program — into the Growth Option 1.0 configuration.

To upgrade the F135, only the power module would need to be swapped out for a new one with a more efficient compressor and improved turbine, including changes to the system’s cooling, he said.

The new configuration is not funded through current joint strike fighter program of record, but if the F-35 joint program office approves it, the engine could be ready for the second round of upgrades under the Block 4 modernization effort, Bromberg said. The cost of the enhanced engine would be roughly the same as the current F135, but the Pentagon would have to pay for further development and validation of the technology.

"The technologies that we're developing on the rig you saw yesterday, those are some of the critical technologies that prove that we can actually execute the program,” he said. "If we're given the green light to go, we would launch a relatively short engineering and manufacturing development program. We have to go through all of that validation. But we view that as low risk."

The Pentagon could opt to skip the growth option and wait for the results of the Adaptive Engine Transition Program, an ongoing Air Force effort to advance engine technology by adding a third stream of air, which helps optimize the propulsion system’s fuel consumption and performance. Last year, the service awarded Pratt and General Electric Aviation a $1 billion contract each for further work on their engines.

Pratt’s entry for AETP, the XA1010, has been hitting its developmental milestones on time, said Bromberg, noting the company might be able to move faster on the program if directed by the Air Force.
in fact "The new configuration is not funded through current joint strike fighter program of record, but if the F-35 joint program office approves it, the engine could be ready for the second round of upgrades under the Block 4 modernization effort ..."
 

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no pricing inside Pratt & Whitney pitches souped up version of the F-35 engine
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in fact "The new configuration is not funded through current joint strike fighter program of record, but if the F-35 joint program office approves it, the engine could be ready for the second round of upgrades under the Block 4 modernization effort ..."
I am getting confused bout our 2 pet pick on programs does this new engine produce more thrust thereby increasing thrust to weight ratios which also would help in the dogfight dept. Also to my other pet program I read in yesterday's USNI document to Congress buried along about page 40 something there is No request for an over the horizon missile so what the world is going on
 

FORBIN

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So, Forbin, what are you total number now for F-35s?

How many total?

USAF
US Marines
US Navy
UK
Norwegian
Israel
Italian
Dutch
Australia
Japan
etc.

I will share my numbers later.

I have posted, last page


First Flights:
May 25, 2017 - F-35A (AF-118) 15-5127/HL (388 FW, 34 FS).

Deliveries:
May 24, 2017 - F-35A (AF-113) 15-5122/HL (To Hill AFB - 388 FW, 34 FS).
May 25, 2017 - F-35A (AM-05) 5145 (To Luke AFB - 56 FW).

AF-78 (13-5072/HL "388 FW") and AF-101 (14-5100/HL) are at NAS Fort Worth JRB ramping up for the airshow in Paris later in June.

After about...

USAF : 118, 05/2017
according last orders actual deliveries 2 - 2.5 by month

US Marines : 54, 12/2016 + 6 C same as USAF for true ope 1,5 Sqn about
according last orders actual deliveries about 1 all the 2 months

US Navy : about 30 C
according last orders actual deliveries about 1 all the 6 months

US Air Services : 202 +


UK : 4
Norwegian : 5
Israel : 3 now
Italian : 4 - 5
Dutch : 2
Australia : 4
Japan : 1

Foreign : 24

Total : 226 +

For US combat capable really with Block 3i i guesstimate right now

USAF : about 30 : the 34 FS of 24 almost full miss max now 1 or 2 F-35A plus some others especialy in Weapon Test Sqn
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USMC : about 20 maybe 25, 1.5 Sqn + others

USN : 0, IOC for 2019 IIRC with block 3F right now except some for weapons tests use mainly Block 2B the last must be 3i modified in 3F for 2019.
 
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FORBIN

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The naysayers never give up...even as things go better and better.

I have heard that aircraft carriers are obsolete my whole life from one source or another. Yet every major nation that can do so, i still developing them and putting them out there. There are reasons for this...and they are very good reasons.

They still will not let go of the F-35 being "too expensive," yet even some of the older naysayers have to admit that the price is dropping and continues to do so and is now likely to hit the targets established years ago.

They can say what they will...but the facts, and the successes are beginning to drown out their efforts.

:) but in fact more doubters but not knowing all datas, cuz first estimations except for price different especialy for agility low... was based on the capacity of Block 2A or 2B with initial softwares,
so not all datas for reals capable blocks were known and inexact estimations, feelings coming... but not necessarily intentionasl for these reasons and in more not easy to see it some years ago in more also much internet articles are not clears ...so in fact doubters have been duped by first estimation true estimations but don' t give true capability with operationnals blocks.

Now sure F-35 don' t want F-22 for A2A combat it is certain cuz more cheaper etc...

He want in Block 3F a little more than a F-16 for agility ITR, less for STR cuz a heavy single-engine and even if the reactor is very powerful on more long distance less nervous, agility remains decent but it is not an also good dancer as last others 5th gen fighters.
Help him vision on 360° with DAS for A2A close combat but this advantage decrease much if others have also it.

So even it is not the best for A2A with price down USAF have an advantage can afford the number planned 1763 replacing one by one olders and mass remains important for military power no doubt about it.
 
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FORBIN

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I am getting confused bout our 2 pet pick on programs does this new engine produce more thrust thereby increasing thrust to weight ratios which also would help in the dogfight dept. Also to my other pet program I read in yesterday's USNI document to Congress buried along about page 40 something there is No request for an over the horizon missile so what the world is going on
I am not very good in engines :) prefer weapons hehe but thinking also main advantage for agility if they win saying about 1 ton now 19.5 t can do about 1 or 2 ° ITR maybe ... in more by sec for turn more fast, an example...
But in last videos etc... we have see a real better dancer surely Block 3i F-35 in progress.

Waiting more experts opinions o_O
 
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