Chinese semiconductor thread II

tonyget

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U.S. sanctions on Chinese technology are escalating, prompting China to overhaul its semiconductor industry.​

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show no signs of easing any time soon. Quite the contrary:
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is witnessing a ramp-up of these restrictions, both in extent and in a more subtle way, diplomatically: countries and entities such as South Korea, Japan and Taiwan are kindly “invited” to join the train of restrictions on China. Europe is not exempt either, with
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further limiting their sales of DUV lithography equipment to China last January.

Yole Group extensively researches the semiconductor industry, focusing particularly on the Chinese market segment and its ecosystem, including the supply chain. Given the constantly evolving geopolitical context, which significantly impacts the semiconductor sector, Yole Group’s analysts continually monitor market changes. They provide valuable insights and a comprehensive understanding of technical challenges and market issues every quarter.
Explore the perspective presented by Yole Group’s Semiconductor Equipment team today. Data has been extracted from both Market Monitors:
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These restrictions, on top of the past COVID-19 experience and the ensuing supply chain chaos, are causing China to completely rethink its semiconductor industry and associated supply chain, as they could have severe repercussions on future technological developments in China. The Chinese government and semiconductor players take these risks very seriously. Meanwhile, foundries such as
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, CXMT, and Huawei are continuing their work on advanced nodes, which is putting pressure on
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to find new solutions, which in turn is also adding pressure on subsystem suppliers.
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Gaël Giusti, Ph.D., Senior Technology & Market Analyst, Semiconductor Equipment at Yole Group.
“This whole chain is completely realigning toward greater and greater reliance on domestic players. But let’s be clear here: Yole Group’s analysts do not perceive Chinese OEMs/foundries absolutely wanting to change to domestic suppliers for nationalistic reasons or the sake of “changing”; rather, they are forced to, at least to have a second source or second (local) solution just in case everything “closes down” with short notice. Yole Group has seen a complete change in the relationships between domestic chip makers, OEMs, and their respective suppliers from “simple” partners” to close allies in a tech war.”
At the same time, foreign equipment and subsystem suppliers are also obliged to rethink their exposure to the Chinese market by quietly withdrawing from China, adopting a “China +1” strategy, or seeking joint ventures.
As in many regions around the world (e.g., Japan, EU, USA), many Chinese chip and equipment makers, as well as their suppliers, are benefiting from large subsidies, but on an even larger level.
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Taguhi Yeghoyan, Ph.D., Senior Technology & Market Analyst, Semiconductor Equipment at Yole Group.
“Subsidies at the national and provincial levels are adding up to offer significant advantages for some Chinese subsystem suppliers over their foreign competition, especially in terms of pricing. Several provinces outside Beijing and Zhejiang also want to attract their fair share of the semiconductor businesses and are willing to offer significant amounts of money for semiconductor companies to settle there.”
These policies create their share of issues and raise questions on how efficiently subsidies are being used to achieve faster and greater progress in the domestic Chinese semiconductor industry. For instance, it could encourage some companies to pretend to be working for applications dedicated to the semiconductor industry while not putting in all the necessary effort, or even worse, not initiating any work at all beyond “scratching” the surface. It might also negatively impact innovation, with companies tempted by a quick money grab while not really trying to innovate over the longer term. Nonetheless, so far, these efforts seem to be paying off: Yole Group has witnessed many new Chinese equipment and subsystem suppliers emerging since 2019/2020. These players mainly conduct business with Chinese OEMs and chip makers. They benefit from extremely rapid feedback from these very customers, enabling them to be competitive faster than ever versus non-domestic suppliers.
Merle Zhao Market researcher in the Manufacturing and Global Supply Chain Business Line at Yole Group.
“Importantly, an area where China did not have any suppliers until recently, such as for liquid and ozone gas generators, now has several. China is patching/filling voids and rapidly building an entire supply chain where Chinese suppliers will not only compete with foreign ones but also compete among themselves, fostering quicker innovation and a real price war.”
Indeed, market competition is taking place on three fronts: price, as alluded to earlier, performance, and responsiveness to any customer issue. On the latter front, domestic Chinese suppliers are scoring points. It is also clear that Chinese suppliers are starting to beat the competition on price, helped by both domestic subsidies and increased domestic competition: we can take the example of vacuum isolation valves or RF generators and matching networks.
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John West, Deputy Director, Manufacturing & Global Supply Chain Business Line at Yole Group.
“As a result, foreign suppliers are already losing market share in China. Therefore, Yole Group’s analysts argue that in 2023, some market share losses were not, or at least not entirely due to a particular slowdown of the Chinese semiconductor industry, but a result of being gradually substituted by domestic Chinese companies. Yole Group fully expects this trend to carry on in the coming quarters.”
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Yole Group expects this price competition will intensify and expand, sooner rather than later, to other types of subsystems, such as atmospheric and vacuum robots, vacuum pumps, and gas abatement systems. In terms of performance, leading suppliers, especially outside the USA, such as VAT, Horiba, or Inficon, and any other foreign suppliers offering subsystems physically close to anywhere where semiconductor processes take place, are still very solid in terms of performance and market positioning in China in the mid-term. Other subsystems, such as optical lenses, electrostatic chucks, mass flow controllers, and vacuum transfer valves compatible with the most advanced processes, are not easily found on the Chinese market for the time being. There is little doubt that domestic Chinese players will end up competing with these players in the coming years, but foreign suppliers will likely continue to dominate for the most advanced processes; China can rise in the foreseeable future: in 2024, Yole Group’s analysts estimate that 13.5% of subsystems used in domestic Chinese OEMs and foundries will come from Chinese subsystem suppliers, generating a total revenue of US$391 million. It might not seem “much”, but it is up from barely a few percents less than 6 years ago. Another unattended consequence of increasingly intense price competition between Chinese players is an expected consolidation around the larger players.

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Yole Group’s experts will continue monitoring this fluid situation in the coming quarters through its Market Monitors:
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. Suffice it to say for now that China has slowed its development of AI, memory, logic, and the corresponding semiconductor processes but has not stopped in any way.
Time will tell, but instead of weakening the Chinese semiconductor ecosystem, Yole Group’s analysts are witnessing the opposite: a strengthening of it. Will we witness a complete decoupling? Given the complexity of the global semiconductor supply chain, it is unlikely, but now, everything indicates a well-underway partial decoupling of the Chinese semiconductor industry from the international market.
 

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Contrary to initial expectations, US pressure hasn't significantly weakened China's industrial competitiveness. In fact, China has not only solidified its position in smartphones and displays but is also making remarkable strides in the crucial semiconductor sector, mirroring South Korea's own advancements.

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Zhuo Shengwei: Demand in the RF front-end industry has improved, and the 6-inch filter production line is at full production​


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In the first quarter of 2024, Zhuosheng Micro achieved operating income of 1.19 billion yuan, a year-on-year increase of 67.16%; net profit attributable to the parent company was 198 million yuan, a year-on-year increase of 69.83%.

The 6-inch filter production line <..> is in full production at the end of the year

L-PAMiF, LFEM and other related module products integrating self-produced IPD filters have been verified by many clients and have been mass-produced and shipped.


This is
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, one of the suppliers of Huawei and others for the key critical RF front end subsystem.
 

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Xinlu Technology’s Angel Round Financing Successfully Leads a New Era of Domestic Embedded FPGA Design​

Shanghai Xinlu Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Xinlu Technology"), a leader in self-developed embedded FPGA solutions, successfully completed tens of millions of yuan in angel round financing. This round of financing attracted the participation of well-known investment institutions such as Chengdu Capital, Pudong Venture Capital, and Su Gaoxin Financial Holdings, which injected strong impetus into the company's development and marked the rapid rise of innovation in the field of domestic embedded FPGA design.
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Since the company's official operation in early 2022, Xinlu Technology has focused on business driving, gathered first-class software and hardware talents at home and abroad, and focused on the research and development of differentiated products for embedded FPGA IP and programmable PSoC chips. With the self-developed design engine ArkAngel ® , we have successfully created a new efficient and agile tool stack, completely abandoning the traditional analog layout design model, realizing efficient reconstruction of FPGA internal resources and heterogeneous programmable single-chip solutions. In addition, embedded FPGA also has the advantages of low power consumption, low latency and high bandwidth, and can be widely used in high-performance, computing-intensive and real-time processing fields, such as artificial intelligence, edge computing, wireless networks, data centers and automobiles. Emerging incremental markets provide strong support.
Ren Lujia, co-founder and CEO of Xinlu Technology, said that the company relies on embedded FPGA technology and the core engine ArkAngel ® to automatically generate DSA co-processors and achieve complete delivery from RTL to GDS and EDA tool chains. Embedded FPGA has shown strong competitiveness in practical applications due to its advantages such as efficient performance, flexibility, customizability, good compatibility, reliability and security. The DSA coprocessor can significantly improve the performance and functions of hardware systems, automatically generate the best matching software and hardware collaboration solutions for diverse application scenarios, and provide new design methodologies, tool software and the latest design methods for the growing chip design needs. best practices.

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For instance, [subsidies] could encourage some companies to pretend to be working for applications dedicated to the semiconductor industry while not putting in all the necessary effort, or even worse, not initiating any work at all beyond “scratching” the surface. It might also negatively impact innovation, with companies tempted by a quick money grab while not really trying to innovate over the longer term.

The Schrodinger's Subsidy.

On one hand, Chinese semiconductor subsidies incurs an innovation penalty and freeloading behavior, leading to suboptimal efficiency and innovation. (Implication: only Western subsidies lead to world-class innovation results , but China subsidies lead to lying and cheating - But at what cost? /s)

On the other hand, other Western analyst suggest Chinese semiconductor subsidies is too efficient , leading to Chinese dominance in legacy nodes (Interpretation: One man's 'market leadership' is another man's 'overcapacity') - ergo, these "experts" have zero consistency or logic on benefits of subsidies.

Who the eff pays YoleGroup for these self-maturbatory insights? Please tell me you didn't pay for this garbage, my tony.
 

latenlazy

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The Schrodinger's Subsidy.

On one hand, Chinese semiconductor subsidies incurs an innovation penalty and freeloading behavior, leading to suboptimal efficiency and innovation. (Implication: only Western subsidies lead to world-class innovation results , but China subsidies lead to lying and cheating ! [at what cost-ing?] )

On the other hand, other Western analyst suggest Chinese semiconductor subsidies is too efficient , leading to Chinese dominance in legacy nodes (Interpretation: One man's 'market leadership' is another man's 'overcapacity') - ergo, these "experts" have zero consistency or logic on benefits of subsidies.

Who the eff pays YoleGroup for these self-maturbatory insights? Please tell me you didn't pay for this garbage, my tony.
I think the answer honestly is that subsidies actually do induce counterproductive behavior with merchants but induce productive behavior for producers so you have to balance the two. But economists don’t care about such details so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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The Schrodinger's Subsidy.

On one hand, Chinese semiconductor subsidies incurs an innovation penalty and freeloading behavior, leading to suboptimal efficiency and innovation. (Only Western subsidies lead to world-class innovation results , Chinese subsidies lead to cheating and lying [and stealing! But at what cost-ing?] )

On the other hand, other Western analyst suggest Chinese semiconductor subsidies is too efficient , leading to Chinese dominance in legacy nodes and overcapacity - these "experts" have zero consistency or logic on benefits of subsidies.

Who the eff pays YoleGroup for these self-maturbatory insights? Please tell me you didn't pay for this garbage, my tony.
The reality is not just subsidies, a lot of the investment pour into China semiconductor is coming from the private sector driven by the fear and uncertainty the US export controls is putting to Chinese companies. One of those investment is a company that was heavily involved in the real state sector and now they acquired a big semiconductor parts manufacturer and they are also getting heavy into semiconductor manufacturing equipment. The idea of China semiconductor industry is only subsidies is a myth perpetuated by think tankers, most of the things the are subsidize are mostly very risky but necessary investment like lithography or research and development.
 

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Laser chip leader Zonghuixinguang completed a new round of financing worth hundreds of millions of yuan​

The industry-leading laser chip company Changzhou Zonghui Xinguang Semiconductor Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Zonghui Xinguang") completed the first round of C4 financing of several hundred million yuan. This round was led by China Development Bank Manufacturing Transformation and Upgrading Fund. The investment was followed by Lianhe Fengye, Suzhou Yongxin, and Hainan Xinhe. This financing will accelerate Zonghuixinguang’s product technology research and development and optical communication production line layout. In the current investment market environment, the investment value of Zonghuixinguang, a leading company in the VCSEL laser chip industry, has been further demonstrated. It is reported that the second round of Zonghuixinguang C4 has been launched simultaneously.

The application scenarios of VCSEL laser chips have rapidly expanded with the development of 3D sensing, autonomous driving, artificial intelligence and other fields, and the market demand for high-end VCSEL laser chips with high performance, high reliability, and high speed has increased dramatically. As a leading company in the industry, Zonghui Xinguang has a complete product line and has layout in consumer electronics, automotive electronics, optical communications, radio frequency epitaxy and other directions. With its excellent technical strength and product advantages, it continues to provide domestic and foreign customers with High-quality VCSEL laser chips and modules, epitaxial products and technical solutions. As a local company in China, Zonghui Xinguang ranks firmly among the first echelons in the world in the VCSEL laser chip industry. Its team, technology and management have been recognized by many leading investment institutions and industry parties.

In the field of consumer electronics, Zonghuixinguang's market share ranks first in China and among the best in the world. Its products are widely used in leading mobile phone brands due to their leading performance and excellent reliability. Zonghui Xinguang has also developed more VCSEL consumer electronics application scenarios, and its sweeping robot business, drone business, and AR/VR business market share are all in a leading position in the world.

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