Yemen Crisis/Conflict & the "Decisive Storm" Coalition

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JUST IN: Pres. Trump releases statement on US Special Operations Forces raid in Yemen targeting Al-Qaeda operatives
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US Service Member Killed in SEAL Raid on Al-Qaeda in Yemen
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and now Questions mount over botched Yemen raid approved by Trump
US military officials say Trump approved counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence or ground support

he US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by
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, as questions mount over the operation.

After initially denying there had been any civilian casualties in Sunday’s raid, US Central Command (Centcom), which is responsible for military operations in the Middle East and central Asia, acknowledged some of the dead may have included women and children, though claimed some of the women were armed.

A statement said its assessment “seeks to determine if there were any still-undetected civilian casualties in the ferocious firefight.”

The Pentagon has said a US Navy Seal, chief petty officer William Owens, and 14 militants were killed in the raid in al Bayda province, which was launched to gather intelligence on suspected operations by al-Qaida in the Arabian peninsula (AQAP). Medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed. Three US special forces were wounded.

The mission was approved over dinner five days after the presidential inauguration by Trump and his closest advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his special adviser and former Breitbart executive Stephen Bannon, as well as defence secretary General Jim Mattis.

Both the New York Times and Reuters carried quotes from unnamed military officials that seemed to shift blame for the mission to Trump and his inner team. It would be an extraordinary development for a president, who is commander-in-chief, to be briefed against in such detail.

The briefings suggested that one thing after another went wrong from the start of the mission, with the
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villagers seemingly alerted to the impending raid by drones flying lower than usual.

The special forces, apparently lacking full intelligence, were confronted by heavily-fortified positions, including landmines, and faced heavy gunfire from buildings all around during the 50-minute firefight. One of the US planes sent in to help had to be left behind and was deliberately destroyed.

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officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

Trump’s spokesman Sean Spicer said that the White House considered the raid a “successful operation,” although he said it was difficult to call it a success because of Owens’ death.

The civilian dead included an eight-year-old girl, Nawar al-Awlaki, according to her family, who may have been an US citizen. Her father was al-Qaida propagandist and US citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in a September 2011 US drone strike in Yemen.

The girl’s grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, told the Guardian that the village where the raid took place was not an AQAP stronghold, but rather home to tribal sheikhs who were actually fighting with the legal government of Yemen, which the ruling Iran-backed
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Awlaki said the exiled former government was sending arms to his relatives from its southern stronghold in Aden, to combat the Houthis.

The Centcom statement said: “A team designated by the operational task force commander has concluded that civilian noncombatants likely were killed in the midst of a firefight during a 29 January raid in Yemen, and that casualties may include children.

“The known possible civilian casualties appear to have been potentially caught up in aerial gunfire that was called in to assist US forces in contact against a determined enemy that included armed women firing from prepared fighting positions and US special operations members receiving fire from all sides, including from houses and other buildings.”

The mission had been prepared under the Obama administration but it had not been approved.

Centcom insisted the raid resulted in the seizure of material and information that is providing valuable intelligence.

US Air Force colonel John Thomas said: “Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula has a horrifying history of hiding women and children within militant operating areas and terrorist camps, and continuously shows a callous disregard for innocent lives. That’s what makes cases like these so especially tragic.”

US military officials told Reuters the special forces team called in Marine helicopter gunships and Harrier jump jets, and then two MV-22 Osprey vertical takeoff and landing aircraft to extract them.

One of the two suffered engine failure, two of the officials said, and hit the ground so hard that two crew members were injured, and one of the Marine jets had to launch a precision-guided bomb to destroy it.
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and now Questions mount over botched Yemen raid approved by Trump

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while presenting “big treasure trove of intel” Video proof of Yemen raid success turns out to be golden oldie
U.S. Central Command ate crow on Friday after releasing al-Qaida video from a raid in Yemen, only to abruptly pull the video down after learning it was older than it expected.

“We are aware that it is older video,” Defense Department spokesman Eric Pahon told Military Times. “We can’t verify what year it’s from. It’s been on the internet for a little while.”

Although the video has been online for years, it was part of a “big treasure trove of intel” that was recovered from the Jan. 29 raid by special operations forces in Yemen, Pahon said.

The video showed a masked militant lecture on how to create explosives. CENTCOM made the decisions to first publish and then take the video down, Pahon said.

The Jan. 29 raid has become a black mark for the special operations community. One Navy SEAL was killed: Chief Special Warfare Operator William “Ryan” Owens. Six other troops were injured. An MV-22B Osprey crashed and had to be destroyed.
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bd popeye

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According to the media in the US any special ops military action that is not 100% success is classified as "botched." It's easy for armchair military types to criticize the military... most never served a day.

War sucks and mistakes do happen. But I think the mission was successful...simply because the objective was accomplished.

One more thing the media needs to realize ..the bad guys do shoot back.
 
According to the media in the US any special ops military action that is not 100% success is classified as "botched." It's easy for armchair military types to criticize the military... most never served a day.

War sucks and mistakes do happen. But I think the mission was successful...simply because the objective was accomplished.

One more thing the media needs to realize ..the bad guys do shoot back.
the Pentagon made it worse by presenting “big treasure trove of intel” from the post right above yours (https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/ye...ive-storm-coalition.t7260/page-44#post-437126), while perhaps trying to make people "think the mission was successful"
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
If Saudis didn't interfere in Yemen it would have become another Syria and Iran would be laughing all the way to the bank

Let's hope the conflict ends soon
 

FORBIN

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Jan 30, 2017

... and now found the vid which purports to show the attack viewed from ... the other side:

people in Russian Internet were skeptical, one marked where the FIAC could be:
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Yemen wouldn't have been very valuable to Iran and the Saudi regime would have looked like a bunch of idiots.

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In fact a mini submarine !
So " specialist " for these machines which have much 2 countries North Korea* and Iran for asymmetric warfare
for video i see Nothing
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VIDEO: A suicide submarine explodes on a frigate in Saudi Arabia
Published: 6 Feb 2017 09:27 GMT

Channel Al Arabia posted a video showing how a submarine collides and explodes on a Saudi military vessel in a suicide attack.
The Al Arabia television channel has released a video recorded by a camera of the Saudi frigate Al Madinah class that shows the attack last week in waters of the Red Sea. In the recording, one sees a suicide submarine forcefully ram the ship, exploding near a helicopter located on the frigate deck.
Early versions pointed to the attack being carried out with a self-guided missile, but this new video shows that it was carried out with a submarine. The Saudi warship was located near the city of Al Hudayda, 150 kilometers southwest of the Yemeni capital Sana'a.

The perpetrators - in which at least two sailors were killed and three others wounded - were Hutu fighters, local media reported. They also report that, despite the blast, the Saudi ship was able to return to the port of the city of Jeddah (Saudi Arabia).

Yemen is experiencing an armed conflict between forces loyal to the country's president, Abd Rabbuh Mansur al-Hadi, who was forced to leave the country, and the Shi'ite Shiites, allies of Iran.
Since March 2015, a coalition of Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia has intervened militarily against the Hutu rebels, against whom it has carried out thousands of air strikes.

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