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[hijiki]

This week marks the 75th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, an action that prevented further American and Japanese casualties from a conventional invasion of mainland Japan. The bombings brought a swift end to the war in the Pacific theater, which began when Japan mounted a dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. Japan's complete capitulation and the subsequent American occupation drastically altered the course of Japanese history and the structure of Japanese society. In many ways, Japan was remade in America's image, a process that first began when Commodore Perry's black ships arrived at her shores. The Japan that emerged from the radioactive ashes of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is no longer a

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, but one with a strong desire for American leadership and more prosperous and peaceful than ever before. So in a poetic sense, the nuclear fires of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were spiritually purifying and marked the beginning of a successful process of re-writing Japanese cultural DNA for the better.

So yeah, you are welcome, Japan. Never forget that.

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Some original footage of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki:

The mushroom cloud on the left is from Hiroshima, one the right is from Nagasaki:
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Enola Gay, the famous B-29 Superfortress that delivered the nuclear payload on Hiroshima:
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Bockscar was the bomber that delivered the payload on Nagasaki. It remains well preserved to this day.
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And finally, here's a photograph of the conquering hero MacArthur (left) towering over the capitulator Hirohito (right). General MacArthur would go on to transform Japanese society and culture in just a few short years, accomplishing far more than any native Japanese ruler had ever done. As an interesting aside, prior to this photograph, Hirohito had rarely been photographed standing next to another person, much less someone so much more physically imposing and authoritative; Hirohito stood a mere 5'5" (165cm) but was considered tall for a Japanese. The emperor had always posed alone for photographs, which were carefully manipulated to make him appear taller than he actually was.
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This post should be in a history specific location. I see no reason why it should be allowed to "commemorate" the bombings if opposing views are not allowed to be made.

So here it is again.

The use of the atomic bombs were war crimes.

The ratilnality of them not being war crimes hinges on the start of the Second Sino-Japanese war being entirely on the fault of the Japanese, the start of the Pacific War by PH attack was entirely on the fault of the Japanese, that the Japanese were by nature equvilent to intolerable society like the Nazis, and that the US "had to make Japan surrender" on the unconditional terms.

All of those points are false.

CKS and KMT had made agreement that kept Japan's Manchuria intack. Japanese northern activities in mid 1930s were for reinforcing the Manchuria area. That was the scope of most interests in China. CKS was on the hunt for the chinese commies. But CKS was betrayed by one of his generals and was kidnapped and brought to the Chinese communists so as to make truce and start war with Japan in Dec 1936.

Run up to PH attack is full of the US getting itself involved in China matters, we all know this. If the US created definition of "war criminal" was applied in a non-bias way, then FDR would be a war criminal just like Tojo for being racists and key figure in the escalation towards war. Truman for approving the use of the atomic bombs which was the massacre of mass civilians, that being more at fault than "Class A war criminal" Iwane Matsui for being charged with the Nanking massacre. So the carrier USS Truman going about is really named after a war criminal by US definition.

From the moralist perspective, the nature of Imperial Japan was no worse than the average of other empires or US. And was better than the SU, KMT, and CCP. The "necessity" to completely eliminate Imperial Japan resulted in the victory of the CCP, the fall of Taiwan to KMT distorship, and the split in Korea with the fat-kim regime in the north and the south taking 4 decades to suppass levels as it was when part of the empire. The korean War was a direct result too. Had the US been any slower, it might have been a full Fat-Kim regime on the peninsula today. Vietnam war as well probably.

It took many years and the ability to see very different views on perspectives which was not just various views in Japan but also CCP views which their own propaganda measures so poorly. It's amazing how long it took to realize the obvious once things are known.

 

[Xizor]

This post should be in a history specific location. I see no reason why it should be allowed to "commemorate" the bombings if opposing views are not allowed to be made.

So here it is again.

The use of the atomic bombs were war crimes.

The ratilnality of them not being war crimes hinges on the start of the Second Sino-Japanese war being entirely on the fault of the Japanese, the start of the Pacific War by PH attack was entirely on the fault of the Japanese, that the Japanese were by nature equvilent to intolerable society like the Nazis, and that the US "had to make Japan surrender" on the unconditional terms.

All of those points are false.


From the moralist perspective, the nature of Imperial Japan was no worse than the average of other empires or US. And was better than the SU, KMT, and CCP. The "necessity" to completely eliminate Imperial Japan resulted in the victory of the CCP, the fall of Taiwan to KMT distorship, and the split in Korea

Yeah....

You are wrong .

Japan's intentions with East Asia was to extend the living space for Japanese/ install Puppet regimes which would ultimately be subservient to Japan that would help supply raw materials. While the idea that they should be liberated from colonial possession is noble, Can you say for sure that Japan would've treated them with far more respect than Colonialists ?
Do remember that Japan was/is resource poor and these East Asian nations would've to supply raw materials to the Japanese Empire ( similar to how they supplied raw materials to the Colonial nations of Europe) at cheap rates ( even for free it all depended on the whims of Japanese Diet).

The Japanese aggression with China was far more severe because China was the "Empire" before them. China had History behind it. Chinese culture influenced Japanese and other nations around it not the other way around. Eliminating the Chinese people was important so as to assert Japanese supremacy over all of Asia, therefore.

Can you say with absolute certainty that Japan would've wanted a strong China after Japan won the WW2( after "peacefully liberating and protecting China" ) ?

The answer is clear.IF Japan won the WW2 and had its way -
Japan would've oppressed the Chinese ( maybe much worse than the colonialists because of China's previous position in the world stage ), they'd have imposed the Japanese culture and advocated cultural and even racial supremacy of Japanese over all of East Asian cultures, tried to eliminate/oppress Koreans and made East Asian nations mere tributaries with Japan as the center.

In a sense, all of East Asia would be "liberated" from European colonial oppression and loot. But the plight of the people would be much worse.

 

[hijiki]

Yeah....

You are wrong .

Japan's intentions with East Asia was to extend the living space for Japanese/ install Puppet regimes which would ultimately be subservient to Japan that would help supply raw materials. While the idea that they should be liberated from colonial possession is noble, Can you say for sure that Japan would've treated them with far more respect than Colonialists ?
Do remember that Japan was/is resource poor and these East Asian nations would've to supply raw materials to the Japanese Empire ( similar to how they supplied raw materials to the Colonial nations of Europe) at cheap rates ( even for free it all depended on the whims of Japanese Diet).

The Japanese aggression with China was far more severe because China was the "Empire" before them. China had History behind it. Chinese culture influenced Japanese and other nations around it not the other way around. Eliminating the Chinese people was important so as to assert Japanese supremacy over all of Asia, therefore.

Can you say with absolute certainty that Japan would've wanted a strong China after Japan won the WW2( after "peacefully liberating and protecting China" ) ?

The answer is clear.IF Japan won the WW2 and had its way -
Japan would've oppressed the Chinese ( maybe much worse than the colonialists because of China's previous position in the world stage ), they'd have imposed the Japanese culture and advocated cultural and even racial supremacy of Japanese over all of East Asian cultures, tried to eliminate/oppress Koreans and made East Asian nations mere tributaries with Japan as the center.

In a sense, all of East Asia would be "liberated" from European colonial oppression and loot. But the plight of the people would be much worse.

Very good post in that it collects many points to answer.

I'll get my response out within 24 hours.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

What Japan did to Chin a is horrendous but It also galvanize Chinese nation to stood up and fight and it heralded the destruction of corrupt KMT and usher in a new China . People should forgive but never forget. But to this day instead of atonement Japan continue their hostile and unfriendly attitude toward China.
Chinese resistance tie up 1 million of Japanese landforce that would otherwise available to fight against US But no western MSM acknowledge this huge contribution to defeat Japan.
Beside the west, the only country that help China is Soviet Union just finish watching CGTN documentary on "China lifeline" the story of northwest route to funnel war material to China during the war with Japan

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A look back at China's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression
By You Yang, Shi Xuchen

A saying goes, "every inch of the Chinese territory is covered by blood," for the millions of Chinese who died during the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression.
"I decided to join the army and to avenge the Japanese invaders. I was determined to wipe out those Japanese soldiers. ", said Li Xiuhui, a veteran of the War Resistance Against Japanese Aggression.

Another veteran Yang Liangping described the battlefield: "The scenes on the battlefield were too horrific to look at...as far as one could see, it was all covered by dead bodies".
It all started on September 18, 1931.

Japanese troops destroyed a section of a railway in the northeastern Chinese city of Shenyang. And they blamed China for the move. Then they used it as a pretext to invade and occupy China over the next 14 years.
"The anti-Japanese forces, such as the Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army, which was led by the Communist Party of China, overcame tremendous hardships. Some battles were fought in the most horrendous conditions." said Fan Lihong, the curator at "9.18" Historical Museum in Shenyang, Liaoning Province.
Six years later, gunshots in Beijing at the Lugou Bridge, or the Marco Polo Bridge, marked Japan's full-scale invasion. This made China the first country to be invaded by a fascist state in World War II.
And China was the first to fight back.

"China managed to tie down hundreds of thousands of Japanese soldiers in Asia while America was invaded at the Pacific, so the most important is China didn't surrender to the Japanese invaders - that's one of the most important contributions to the victory," said Aaron Moore, a Ph.D. lecturer at Manchester University.
The first major clash between the two forces was recorded in the Battle of Shanghai. China was battling a stronger enemy. At that time, Japan was far more superior in air power. Although China tried its best to counter Japan's air force, its planes were of inferior quality.

The battle lasted three months, and China was at the losing end, with nearly 300,000 soldiers dead. But China's resistance efforts dashed the Japanese plan to take all of China in three months.
"Before my grandfather departed for the battle, he told my grandmother that this time, his body might not be seen ever again. He was ready to sacrifice his life," said Qin Qiangmin, grandson of Chinese General Qin Lin, who died during the war.

After taking Shanghai, the Japanese soldiers continued to move inland. They captured the Chinese capital of Nanjing under the Nationalist Party in December 1937. The subsequent six weeks of the Nanjing Massacre saw mass murder and rape, killing more than 300,000 Chinese.
Xia Shuqin, a survivor of the Nanjing Massacre, told us that "The Japanese troops killed my seven relatives. Only my 4-year-old sister and I escaped alive. I shook everyone, but none of them survived."
A turning point appeared in the Battle of Wuhan. Around 300,000 Japanese soldiers and over 1 million Chinese forces faced off. After the Battle of Wuhan, the war came into a stage of strategic stalemate. But the cost was huge: about 400,000 Chinese forces died.

In December 1941, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The Pacific War broke out. Two years later, China signed the Cairo Declaration with the U.S. and Britain. The document cemented China's status as one of the four Allied Great Powers in the World Anti-Fascist War.
On August 15, 1945, Japan announced its unconditional surrender. The move also marked the end of World War II.
When China began its war of resistance, it was up against two-thirds of Japan's land forces and much of its naval and air forces. Over 35 million Chinese soldiers and civilians made the ultimate sacrifice.
China has designated September 3 as the country's Victory Day of the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression. The government says the aim is to commemorate the sacrifices made in the war while avoiding a replay of the catastrophes.

 

[Gatekeeper]

What Japan did to Chin a is horrendous but It also galvanize Chinese nation to stood up and fight and it heralded the destruction of corrupt KMT and usher in a new China . People should forgive but never forget. But to this day instead of atonement Japan continue their hostile and unfriendly attitude toward China.
Chinese resistance tie up 1 million of Japanese landforce that would otherwise available to fight against US But no western MSM acknowledge this huge contribution to defeat Japan.
Beside the west, the only country that help China is Soviet Union just finish watching CGTN documentary on "China lifeline" the story of northwest route to funnel war material to China during the war with Japan

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A look back at China's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression
By You Yang, Shi Xuchen

A saying goes, "every inch of the Chinese territory is covered by blood," for the millions of Chinese who died during the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression.
"I decided to join the army and to avenge the Japanese invaders. I was determined to wipe out those Japanese soldiers. ", said Li Xiuhui, a veteran of the War Resistance Against Japanese Aggression.

Another veteran Yang Liangping described the battlefield: "The scenes on the battlefield were too horrific to look at...as far as one could see, it was all covered by dead bodies".
It all started on September 18, 1931.

Japanese troops destroyed a section of a railway in the northeastern Chinese city of Shenyang. And they blamed China for the move. Then they used it as a pretext to invade and occupy China over the next 14 years.
"The anti-Japanese forces, such as the Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army, which was led by the Communist Party of China, overcame tremendous hardships. Some battles were fought in the most horrendous conditions." said Fan Lihong, the curator at "9.18" Historical Museum in Shenyang, Liaoning Province.
Six years later, gunshots in Beijing at the Lugou Bridge, or the Marco Polo Bridge, marked Japan's full-scale invasion. This made China the first country to be invaded by a fascist state in World War II.
And China was the first to fight back.

"China managed to tie down hundreds of thousands of Japanese soldiers in Asia while America was invaded at the Pacific, so the most important is China didn't surrender to the Japanese invaders - that's one of the most important contributions to the victory," said Aaron Moore, a Ph.D. lecturer at Manchester University.
The first major clash between the two forces was recorded in the Battle of Shanghai. China was battling a stronger enemy. At that time, Japan was far more superior in air power. Although China tried its best to counter Japan's air force, its planes were of inferior quality.

The battle lasted three months, and China was at the losing end, with nearly 300,000 soldiers dead. But China's resistance efforts dashed the Japanese plan to take all of China in three months.
"Before my grandfather departed for the battle, he told my grandmother that this time, his body might not be seen ever again. He was ready to sacrifice his life," said Qin Qiangmin, grandson of Chinese General Qin Lin, who died during the war.

After taking Shanghai, the Japanese soldiers continued to move inland. They captured the Chinese capital of Nanjing under the Nationalist Party in December 1937. The subsequent six weeks of the Nanjing Massacre saw mass murder and rape, killing more than 300,000 Chinese.
Xia Shuqin, a survivor of the Nanjing Massacre, told us that "The Japanese troops killed my seven relatives. Only my 4-year-old sister and I escaped alive. I shook everyone, but none of them survived."
A turning point appeared in the Battle of Wuhan. Around 300,000 Japanese soldiers and over 1 million Chinese forces faced off. After the Battle of Wuhan, the war came into a stage of strategic stalemate. But the cost was huge: about 400,000 Chinese forces died.

In December 1941, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The Pacific War broke out. Two years later, China signed the Cairo Declaration with the U.S. and Britain. The document cemented China's status as one of the four Allied Great Powers in the World Anti-Fascist War.
On August 15, 1945, Japan announced its unconditional surrender. The move also marked the end of World War II.
When China began its war of resistance, it was up against two-thirds of Japan's land forces and much of its naval and air forces. Over 35 million Chinese soldiers and civilians made the ultimate sacrifice.
China has designated September 3 as the country's Victory Day of the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression. The government says the aim is to commemorate the sacrifices made in the war while avoiding a replay of the catastrophes.

I just finished watching CGTN news, and now watching dialogue, where they showed Japan's war crimes against China. At the same time showing Abey white washing of Japan's role in the war.

He together with others in Japan layed flowers. But they are doing it to reflect their role in the ww2. They are doing it as a kind if victimhood. They still believe it is most horrendous and unfair that US dropped to atomic bomb on them!

 

[hijiki]

I just finished watching CGTN news, and now watching dialogue, where they showed Japan's war crimes against China. At the same time showing Abey white washing of Japan's role in the war.

He together with others in Japan layed flowers. But they are doing it to reflect their role in the ww2. They are doing it as a kind if victimhood. They still believe it is most horrendous and unfair that US dropped to atomic bomb on them!

About sentiment in Japan about the atomic bombs.

Here are 3 surveys to show such high of victimhood isn't really the case. All were taken around the time Obama visited Hiroshima in 2016.

The first one was conducted by Asahi (Left-wing).

"How do you feel about the dropping of the Atomic Bomb"

31% Inhumane and cannot be forgiven

33% Inhumane but not deeply rooted in it

22% For the US, it was necessary course of action

8% It was war so was natural

Out of the 31% that said "Inhumane and cannot be forgiven", 89% appreciated Obama's visit.

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Second survey was conducted by Sankei (right-wing) and FNN.

"Do you appraise Obama's visit to Hiroshima"

97.5% yes

Should Obama have made an apology during the visit?

68.2% No, I don't think so

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For the third one, 65.1% expected just a visit to Hiroshima memorial. Only 6.9% expected an apology.

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About sentiment in Japan about the atomic bombs.

Here are 3 surveys to show such high of victimhood isn't really the case. All were taken around the time Obama visited Hiroshima in 2016.

The first one was conducted by Asahi (Left-wing).

"How do you feel about the dropping of the Atomic Bomb"

31% Inhumane and cannot be forgiven

33% Inhumane but not deeply rooted in it

22% For the US, it was necessary course of action

8% It was war so was natural

Out of the 31% that said "Inhumane and cannot be forgiven", 89% appreciated Obama's visit.

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Second survey was conducted by Sankei (right-wing) and FNN.

"Do you appraise Obama's visit to Hiroshima"

97.5% yes

Should Obama have made an apology during the visit?

68.2% No, I don't think so

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For the third one, 65.1% expected just a visit to Hiroshima memorial. Only 6.9% expected an apology.

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Thanks for your insight.

Stats can and have been manipulated to suit and give a particular answers as I have often said. I think I've posted this before on another thread, but here goes:

So i would be very mindful about pools and on the interpretation of polls.

However, for the sake of the discussion, and we have only got what you posted as the starting base, I notes there are over two thirds of Japanese that thinks the atomic bombs are inhumane and therefore not justify. That's telling!

And the polls amongst the right wingers approval of Obama's visit, and to seek an apology is blinking obvious. I could've told the pollsters that to save them money! This are right wingers, they are in favour of the status quo after all.

The two third of Japanese thinking dropping the atomic bombs is inhumane, therefore if it's inhumane it must be wrong. If it's wrong then they are indeed the victims of this wrong doing! See?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there are wrong for feeling this way. I just merely put it that in their outlook on the sorry saga of Japanese...... em, say involvement and adventure in east and south east Asia, they are either ignorant or refuses to believe that it is possibke for Japan to cause so much harm and suffering to other nations.

Instead they believe, and judging by successive Japanese government behaviours, the Japanese government believes they are the victims in this. That is why I said about the feeling of victimhood!

 

[hijiki]

Thanks for your insight.

Stats can and have been manipulated to suit and give a particular answers as I have often said. I think I've posted this before on another thread, but here goes:

So i would be very mindful about pools and on the interpretation of polls.

However, for the sake of the discussion, and we have only got what you posted as the starting base, I notes there are over two thirds of Japanese that thinks the atomic bombs are inhumane and therefore not justify. That's telling!

And the polls amongst the right wingers approval of Obama's visit, and to seek an apology is blinking obvious. I could've told the pollsters that to save them money! This are right wingers, they are in favour of the status quo after all.

The two third of Japanese thinking dropping the atomic bombs is inhumane, therefore if it's inhumane it must be wrong. If it's wrong then they are indeed the victims of this wrong doing! See?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there are wrong for feeling this way. I just merely put it that in their outlook on the sorry saga of Japanese...... em, say involvement and adventure in east and south east Asia, they are either ignorant or refuses to believe that it is possibke for Japan to cause so much harm and suffering to other nations.

Instead they believe, and judging by successive Japanese government behaviours, the Japanese government believes they are the victims in this. That is why I said about the feeling of victimhood!

The first bold underscore in your post is nothing but just a conjecture.





As for the second bold underscore..

There are 6 major High School history book publishers but mostly seem to portray generally the same material. I own a couple of books by one of the major publishers called Yamakawa Publisher. Here they are.

Both are for High School. The one on the left is mostly text. The one on the right has lots of visual charts, graphs, and images with briefer descriptions. The left one with the text I picked up today. The one on the right I had for 6 or so months, just for the purpose of familiarizing myself with general Japanese history (which I never find the time to settle down and get to doing..)

Generally scanning through the book over the general date period when the main atrocities committed by the Japanese occurred, there's a description for the Nanking massacre which goes as follows:

It needs to be noted that the style of the book is that historical terms are left blank but listed at the bottom of the page. The terms are numbered. It gives the student the opportunity to write in the terms as they read along. It says the following:

　1937年8月には上海でも戦闘が始まり（第２次上海事変）、戦火は南に広がった。
９月には国民党と共産党がふたたび提携して（第二次国共合作）、抗日
民族統一戦線を成立させた。日本はつぎつぎと大軍を投入し、
年末には国民政府の首都南京を占領した。南京陥落の前後、日本

軍は市内外で略奪・暴行を繰り返したうえ、多数の中国人一般住民（婦女子を含
む）および捕虜を殺害した（南京事件という）。国民政府は南京か
ら漢口、さらに奥地の重慶に退いてあくまで抗戦を続けたので、日中戦
争は泥沼のような長期戦となった。

With the fighting starting in Shanghai (2nd Shanghai incident) in August 1937, the fires of war spread south. The Nationalists party and Communists party once again entered into cooperation (2nd United Front), forming a united national front of resistance against Japan. Japan continued to send in a larger army and by the end of the year, had occupied the Nationalists government's capital of Nanking. Before and after the fall of Nankin, the Japanese army carried out repeatedly pillage and rape inside and outside of the city, in addition to a great number of regular Chinese people (including women and children) and prisoners being murdered. The Nationalists retreated from Nankin to Hankou and then further into the interior to Chongqing and continued the resistance, thus Sino-Japanese war bogged down into a long lasting war.




In the book on the right side with all the images and graphs, it has one page with descriptions for Unit 731, the Bataan Death March, the construction of the Burma railway, and the massacre of Chinese at Singapore shortly after the occupation of Singapore.

With that, I will add there was a study by a Stanford faculty comparing the textbooks of Japan with those of the US, South Korea, Taiwan, and China:

Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added. This is the finding of the Divided Memories and Reconciliation project by the author and his colleague Professor Gi-Wook Shin, involving an in-depth comparison of history textbooks used in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the United States.

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The first bold underscore in your post is nothing but just a conjecture.





As for the second bold underscore..

There are 6 major High School history book publishers but mostly seem to portray generally the same material. I own a couple of books by one of the major publishers called Yamakawa Publisher. Here they are.

Both are for High School. The one on the left is mostly text. The one on the right has lots of visual charts, graphs, and images with briefer descriptions. The left one with the text I picked up today. The one on the right I had for 6 or so months, just for the purpose of familiarizing myself with general Japanese history (which I never find the time to settle down and get to doing..)

Generally scanning through the book over the general date period when the main atrocities committed by the Japanese occurred, there's a description for the Nanking massacre which goes as follows:

It needs to be noted that the style of the book is that historical terms are left blank but listed at the bottom of the page. The terms are numbered. It gives the student the opportunity to write in the terms as they read along. It says the following:

　1937年8月には上海でも戦闘が始まり（第２次上海事変）、戦火は南に広がった。
９月には国民党と共産党がふたたび提携して（第二次国共合作）、抗日
民族統一戦線を成立させた。日本はつぎつぎと大軍を投入し、
年末には国民政府の首都南京を占領した。南京陥落の前後、日本

軍は市内外で略奪・暴行を繰り返したうえ、多数の中国人一般住民（婦女子を含
む）および捕虜を殺害した（南京事件という）。国民政府は南京か
ら漢口、さらに奥地の重慶に退いてあくまで抗戦を続けたので、日中戦
争は泥沼のような長期戦となった。

With the fighting starting in Shanghai (2nd Shanghai incident) in August 1937, the fires of war spread south. The Nationalists party and Communists party once again entered into cooperation (2nd United Front), forming a united national front of resistance against Japan. Japan continued to send in a larger army and by the end of the year, had occupied the Nationalists government's capital of Nanking. Before and after the fall of Nankin, the Japanese army carried out repeatedly pillage and rape inside and outside of the city, in addition to a great number of regular Chinese people (including women and children) and prisoners being murdered. The Nationalists retreated from Nankin to Hankou and then further into the interior to Chongqing and continued the resistance, thus Sino-Japanese war bogged down into a long lasting war.




In the book on the right side with all the images and graphs, it has one page with descriptions for Unit 731, the Bataan Death March, the construction of the Burma railway, and the massacre of Chinese at Singapore shortly after the occupation of Singapore.

With that, I will add there was a study by a Stanford faculty comparing the textbooks of Japan with those of the US, South Korea, Taiwan, and China:

Some common assumptions about history textbooks used in Japan turn out to be ill-founded. Far from inculcating patriotism, as many overseas observers assume, Japanese high school textbooks tend to dryly present a chronology of historical facts, with little interpretive narrative added. This is the finding of the Divided Memories and Reconciliation project by the author and his colleague Professor Gi-Wook Shin, involving an in-depth comparison of history textbooks used in China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and the United States.

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Thank you for posting information from Japanese textbooks.
I must say something, however -
I, personally, don't attach any value to whether Japan tries to teach its war history to its students. Countries all around the world hide the atrocities it committed in the past.

All I care about is whether the Chinese remember the history.

Ultimately, I have some doubts about the future of Japan as a sovereign nation (as to when it will truly be relieved of foreign occupation).
These days, it's all about thwarting China and North Korea and that's the excuse for continued occupation of Japan. I don't know if Japan will ever be able to militarily assert and be fully sovereign. Surely it must end someday. But when is the question.

It's also a good thing that Japan preserves its culture and homogenous nature of population. While the European identity is crumbling, the Asian identities seem to be well protected.

 

[hijiki]

Thank you for posting information from Japanese textbooks.
I must say something, however -
I, personally, don't attach any value to whether Japan tries to teach its war history to its students. Countries all around the world hide the atrocities it committed in the past.

All I care about is whether the Chinese remember the history.

Ultimately, I have some doubts about the future of Japan as a sovereign nation (as to when it will truly be relieved of foreign occupation).
These days, it's all about thwarting China and North Korea and that's the excuse for continued occupation of Japan. I don't know if Japan will ever be able to militarily assert and be fully sovereign. Surely it must end someday. But when is the question.

It's also a good thing that Japan preserves its culture and homogenous nature of population. While the European identity is crumbling, the Asian identities seem to be well protected.

US forces are welcomed in Japan. Sometimes they forget how overbearing they can be. But at the same time, they truely to express their appreciation for having good host. US and Japan security interests are more aligned than not. The PRC side believes it is still "Japan occupation" but it is not. So long as the PRC maintains the 9 dash line claim in the South China Sea, the claim on Taiwan, and the claim on the Senkaku islands, US forces will be welcomed in the region.