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solarz

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You realise he didnt actuallyu have any formal techy qualifications. In theearly years It was his partner Wozniak who was the geek . In the later years it was his vision and presentation/marketing skills that carried the day.As Solarz said it was left to the others to do the hard yards.

Apparently he also screwed Wozniak out of 2150$! :)

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Jobs returned to his previous job at Atari and was given the task of creating a circuit board for the game Breakout. According to Atari founder Nolan Bushnell, Atari had offered $100 for each chip that was eliminated in the machine. Jobs had little interest in or knowledge of circuit board design and made a deal with Wozniak to split the bonus evenly between them if Wozniak could minimize the number of chips. Much to the amazement of Atari, Wozniak reduced the number of chips by 50, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line. According to Wozniak, Jobs told Wozniak that Atari had given them only $700 (instead of the actual $5,000) and that Wozniak's share was thus $350.

I see Jobs as a great salesperson. Let's face it, without the success of iPod, the iPhone would never have received the kind of hype and demand that it did. And what exactly was revolutionary about the iPod? Nothing much except a great marketing campaign.
 

Equation

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Jobs was at the helm when the original Mac sales declined. In fact, he was "fired" from Apple for that very reason.

Actually he was forced to resign in a way due to the corporate structure. The board members wanted to move into the direction like every other high tech firms like Dell, HP, Compact (before the merger), HP, and Gateway, but Jobs wanted another. It took them almost a decade to learn their lesson the hard way with stagnant growth and boring products when he left. Yes there are some talents like Steve Jobs, but it's his leadership and doing things the opposite of others that made Apple an icon company, even more so then Google, Facebook and Microsoft. You gotta admit the man knows how to sell.
 

bladerunner

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The products apple made under Jobs guidence the second time around were things of beauty starting with the imac.One didnt have to be a techy geek to want a computer. The imac sitting in the livining room of ones home added to the decor.
 

In4ser

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What's ironic is all the talk about how Steve Jobs' legacy is he took expensive advanced technology from the elites and made it available to the masses. Yeah it's great when they're in control of it. Because what we've seen recently regarding green technology is the opposite. They don't want green technology available to the masses because they can't compete against the lower prices of others. Now all of the sudden having it availbale to the masses is a bad thing.
Agreed. You cannot have large market share of something meant for a large consumer based you're priced as a luxury product. Hence the name Luxury.
 

Quickie

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Much to the amazement of Atari, Wozniak reduced the number of chips by 50, a design so tight that it was impossible to reproduce on an assembly line.

This statement make no sense as there would be more space in the circuit board.

Jobs may not be formally trained in circuit board designs, but that did not stop him from doing what he's good at, which is the user interface aspect of the product, something most users would only concern with, and something Apple products excel over other brands. (Or so I believe, as I have only fleeting experience with Apple products and I'm not a owner of it)
 

solarz

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This statement make no sense as there would be more space in the circuit board.

Jobs may not be formally trained in circuit board designs, but that did not stop him from doing what he's good at, which is the user interface aspect of the product, something most users would only concern with, and something Apple products excel over other brands. (Or so I believe, as I have only fleeting experience with Apple products and I'm not a owner of it)

You should get an iPod or a Macbook and then talk of Apple's "vaunted UI". I have both, and in short, they're nothing impressive.

It's true that the iPod/iPhone/iPad has the best touchscreen technology currently on the market, but that's not really UI design, is it?

Another great achievement from Apple is the concept of Apps: self-contained programs that hides all the technical aspects from the user. The downside to that? It's like the Fisher Price of softwares: meant for people who have no clue how to use a computer. With Apps, there is no customization possible, no add-ons or plug-ins, no choice of what you want to install and what you don't want to install. No choice on how memory is managed. Of course, that's okay for iPods, for now: I don't expect to use my iPod for serious work.

However, the fact that the same trend is carried to the iPad, which *could* be used for work, is more worrisome. As hyped as it is, the iPad is still just a gadget.

As for the MacOS design, the best I can say about it is that it's no better than the Windows design. If I were less charitable, I'd say it's worse. Multitasking is more annoying, most actions needs to rely on the mouse, and the task bar takes up more space than necessary.

As for the circuit board design, I think they were trying to reduce the size as much as possible.
 

Engineer

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Is it just me or does this smells strickingly similar to making thought crimes punishable?
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"Under this bill, if a young couple plans a wedding in Amsterdam, and as part of the wedding, they plan to buy the bridal party some marijuana, they would be subject to prosecution," said Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the Drug Policy Alliance, which advocates for reforming the country's drug laws. "The strange thing is that the purchase of and smoking the marijuana while you're there wouldn't be illegal. But this law would make planning the wedding from the U.S. a federal crime."
 
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bd popeye

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^^^ Man that sounds like the World police.

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BEIRUT (AP) — Security forces opened fire on tens of thousands of mourners who turned out Saturday for the funeral of a slain Kurdish opposition leader in northeastern Syria, killing at least two people, eyewitnesses said.

Activists said security forces also fired on a funeral procession in the Damascus suburb of Douma for three people who were killed a day earlier. Ten people were wounded, according to the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The biggest crowds took to the streets of Qamishli, where people marched to mourn Mashaal Tammo, the prominent and charismatic Kurdish opposition figure who was gunned down Friday by masked gunmen. The slaying was the latest in a string of targeted killings in Syria as the country slides further into disorder, seven months into the uprising against President Bashar Assad.

"All of Qamishli is out today, the funeral is turning into a massive protest," Kurdish activist and lawyer Mustafa Osso told The Associated Press by telephone. The grieving cries of fellow mourners could be heard in the background.

The mourners swelling through Qamishli's streets called on Assad to step down, with chants of "Leave, Leave," while others demanded the "execution of the president." Osso said more than 50,000 people were in the procession.

Security forces opened fire on the crowd, killing two mourners and wounding several others, he said.

The Local Coordination Committees activist network also said at least one person was killed and others injured in the gunfire. The group said the city has been completely shut down after a general strike was declared to mourn Tammo.

It said security forces clashed with protesters trying to tear down a statue of Assad's late father, Hafez Assad, who ruled Syria with an authoritarian grip until his death in 2000.

Tammo, a 53-year-old former political prisoner and a spokesman for the Kurdish Future Party, was also a member of the executive committee of the newly formed Syrian National Council, a broad-based front bringing together opposition figures inside and outside the country in an attempt to unify the deeply fragmented dissident movement.

A vocal regime opponent, Tammo had been instrumental in organizing anti-government protests in Qamishli in recent months.

It was not clear who carried out the killing. Some in the opposition said the regime was responsible for his assassination. Osso said Tammo had no enemies and blamed security forces, but others noted there was a power struggle between him and rival Kurdish parties.

State-run news agency SANA reported his killing by "four masked gunmen in a black car," calling him a "national" opposition leader.

His death could spark violent protests in the Kurdish region at a time when Syria's security forces already have their hands full in trying to stamp out dissent across much of the rest of the country. Kurds — the largest ethnic minority in Syria — make up 15 percent of the country's 23 million people and have long complained of neglect and discrimination.

Assad granted citizenship in April to stateless Kurds in eastern Syria in an attempt to address some of the protesters' grievances.

The White House condemned Tammo's killing and said Assad must step down before he takes his country further "down this very dangerous path."

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said Tammo was another victim of a "brutal regime of lawlessness."

"The opposition's determination won't be crushed by violence. And the international pressure won't diminish, but will increase further," he added.

Tammo's assassination was similar to other recent targeted killings in Syria by unknown gunmen, raising concerns the country might be sliding toward civil war. The most recent was the assassination of the son of Syria's top Sunni cleric, who died in a hail of bullets outside the university where he studied earlier this week.

Several academics and physicists have also been shot dead by gunmen in the past month, most of them in the country's restive central and northern regions.
 
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