World ATTACK Helicopters
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Miragedriver
Brigadier
I was going to place this post in the Ospry thread, but I decided to place it here even though it is not a “combat Helicopter”, it can still be used in a support roll
Tilt rotors do have some major problems.
Can't have door guns, asymmetric lift causing the when one engine is lost, can't fly high enough to avoid AA, can't fly low enough to hide from it, escort helicopters are too slow to keep up with the tilt rotor transports.
Honestly, I hope Russia avoids tilt rotors like the plague.
with that said, Kamov has made some interesting fast moving gunships and transports which are not tilt rotors.
Ka-34
Back to bottling my Grenache
Tilt rotors do have some major problems.
Can't have door guns, asymmetric lift causing the when one engine is lost, can't fly high enough to avoid AA, can't fly low enough to hide from it, escort helicopters are too slow to keep up with the tilt rotor transports.
Honestly, I hope Russia avoids tilt rotors like the plague.
with that said, Kamov has made some interesting fast moving gunships and transports which are not tilt rotors.
Ka-34
Back to bottling my Grenache
V-22 self defense gun is a belly mounted Gatling (I can hunt for the video later). The V-22 engines are cross-linked so if one goes out, power is still maintained to the other rotor.
Service ceiling of the V-22 is 25,000 ft and it can get there a lot quicker and with less fuel than a traditional helicopter. Not sure what AA (I assume you mean artillery?) reaches that high and is widespread. As for flying low, I assume you mean "nap of the Earth" flying. I would bet AFSOC does a lot of NOE flying and you can find V-22's going through the "Mach Loop" in Wales to see what I mean.
The V-22 is very popular with ground troops precisely for these reasons. Plus it also doesn't vibrate like a paint-shaker when at full speed. Yet I would agree with you on one thing. It would be nice if nobody else developed or deployed them.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
Thank you for the information. Yes, I would be interesting in seeing that video if you have time to find one. I assumed that the US military would have taken the precautionary steps to ensure that rotation of the other rotor if there was a mechanical failure or battle damage to one of the powerplants. However like a helicopter if that cross linkage is disrupted (damaged or likewise) the aircraft would suffer loss of flight control (which is what I was alluding to). Nice to know that it does not have the vibration associated with a regular helo. I rode in a UH-1N and my insides are still shaking (and that was 30 years ago)
Is this what you where referring to as the remote weapon system?
The only thing that bothers me about the V-22 is the cost at $us 72 million. The Mi-17 is between $us10 to $us15 million per unit. When bullets start to fly and aircraft are being taken down….it gets very expensive.
Thanks for the info
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
As to "Can't fly high enough to avoid AAA" that is not really because of being a tiltrotor as it is about the choice not to pressurize the cabin. If osprey was pressurized it would have a much higher operational altitude. And in theory a tilt rotor could have door guns... It would just need to be designed to avoid the threat of shooting into them. As to escort helicopters well that more of a problem of not having companion assets. If Bell or Sikorsky have there way by the late 2020s there will be attack and escort aircraft with speed to keep up.
This all said right now Russia seems to be more Interested in compound helicopters then Tilt rotors see KA92, Mil Mi-x1
This all said right now Russia seems to be more Interested in compound helicopters then Tilt rotors see KA92, Mil Mi-x1