What the difference: Type 85, Type 96/96A/96G, Type 98 and Type 99

Tankguru

Just Hatched
Registered Member
ofc type 99a2 exist:)Here comes the beast,biggest difference is implementation of new turret equipped with a millimeter-wave radar protection system,maybe stronger engine around 1800hp and new type of explosive reactive armor..In combat, navigation, night observation systems, has been well strengthened. Not only to maintain the original "active / passive" process defense system. It also adds some new system developed by the PLA.View attachment 10228

And one pic for 1000 words..exist2.jpg
 
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SteelBird

Colonel
ofc type 99a2 exist:)Here comes the beast,biggest difference is implementation of new turret equipped with a millimeter-wave radar protection system,maybe stronger engine around 1800hp and new type of explosive reactive armor..In combat, navigation, night observation systems, has been well strengthened. Not only to maintain the original "active / passive" process defense system. It also adds some new system developed by the PLA.

I'm afraid you need more hard prove to convince me and other members about this. I'm not sure about what model of that pix, but this doesn't prove itself to be 99A2 either.
 

postmanishere

New Member
U R RIGHT.HERE IS A LIST.
Obj 9910=Type 98
ZTZ99=Type 99
ZTZ99 mod1(ERA)=Type 99G
ZTZ99 mod2(new turret)=Type 99A1
ZTZ99A=Type 99A2

That should be clear.


nope...
there is no type98,nor type99 for that matter, type+year naming system has been long replaced
standard designation is ZTZ99 and ZTZ99A which means Z(not certain this Z stands for, Z could mean zhuangjia(装甲车辆,armored vehicle or zhanche战车 fighting vehicle) T (t means tank(坦克) Z(means medium中型) A(first major variant)
when in its design phase, ztz99 is actually WZ123(i don't know what wz stands for,123 means third medium tank which has been officially commissioned to develop 1 means tank, 2 means medium 3 mean the third)You can find examples of WZ naming system in the game world of tank,in which wz111 means first heavy tank which has been offcially commissoned.

pla only add the A-Z modifier to heavily upgraded hardware. ZTZ99A has new propulsion, new FCS package, new turret, new self-defense-system。。。。
so,up to now ,there is only 2 official designation of the WZ123 service variant: ZTZ-99 and ztz-99A
96s and 96As are wz122 service variant,ZTZ-96,ZTZ-96A....
another example is plan's 054 and 054A frigates,which differs greatly from each other.
 
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postmanishere

New Member
U R RIGHT.HERE IS A LIST.
Obj 9910=Type 98
ZTZ99=Type 99
ZTZ99 mod1(ERA)=Type 99G
ZTZ99 mod2(new turret)=Type 99A1
ZTZ99A=Type 99A2

That should be clear.

and i wish to add this
service men and netizen alike still use the type+year naming system,but this is more of traditional and casual useage rather than official useage
 

schlieffen

New Member
Your understanding of Chinese ground weaponry is so fundamentally wrong. It’s like asking “what’s the differences between T-72, T-64, T-80 and T-90? They all looks the same.” It’s a dumb question on so many levels that I don’t even know where to start with.

As others have pointed out many times on this forum, the type + year (of completing state commission qualification) designation has been replaced ages ago. Officially the new designation system follows GJB4528-2002.

Non-professional publications and netizens keep using Type-XX because either 1. They don’t understand the new naming code, or 2. They couldn’t bother recalling the very clumsy new designation, or 3. Sometimes you cannot unveil the official designation before it’s unclassified, or 4. old workhorses like Type-59 are so well know that no one bothers call them the other way.

That being said, one shall at least be aware of the correct designation, of what is actually what.

As to the original post, there is no such things as “Type-85” tank, because these are export-only versions that never passed state acceptance trial and were never included in the official PLA inventory. “Type-85” is a name (as oppose to a designation) invented by its manufacturer to help export marketing efforts. A similar examples is Type-90.

Type-98 or ZTZ-98 was also invented and non-existent, albeit for a different reason. When the Object 9910 parade prototype was unveiled, the real tank (ZTZ-99) was still classified, so people have to invent a name for the 9910. They chose the year it was first witnessed (1998).
 

the corner

New Member
陆军装备命名规则.jpg
98、9910、 99A2 、99G、96G———are not formal.
There are only ZTZ - 96 ZTZ - 96A ZTZ -99 and ZTZ - 99A , and WZ122 and WZ123 are the names of the objects.
by the way: 大家有没有可以直接看懂这句话的?:D
 
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