EternalVigil
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sino52C said:
Congress has a bill in the works to buy more F-22's since they preformed superbly in the latest operational testing. Watch when the defense budget is announced for fiscal year 2007.
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What is this ? Next-gen Fighter for PLAAF ??
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Congress has a bill in the works to buy more F-22's since they preformed superbly in the latest operational testing. Watch when the defense budget is announced for fiscal year 2007.
tphuang said:
Can't the Euro-Fighter is a join project between Britain, Germany, Spain and Italy. Britain won't sell Euro-Fighter because is Britain and US are allies, what US wants Britain will do and what US wants is not for China to get the Euro-Fighter or any tech from Europe.
nah, Typhoon has much better electronics than su-35 and it also has supercruise. If China can get Typhoon, it should. As for the American interference, that would be the biggest stumbling block for sure.Sea Dog said:
The Su-35bm won't be able match the Typhoon. Typhoons airframe is probably more advanced than the flanker's, but the real advantage of the Typhoon lies in avionics and weapons. In a few years Typhoon will probably have an AESA radar and will use Meteor, ASRAAM, and IRIS-T missiles. The flanker's weapons and avionics just can't compare with that.
tphuang said:
What type of interference are you referring to? AFAIK, America has nothing to do with Typhoon or Su-35. Or are you generally talking about arms embargo? In that case, yes. The USA can apply pressure not to sell from the Europeans. But nevertheless, Su-35 is top notch. And I think China will be receiving this into their inventory. Isn't this what has been talked about?
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if China gets to choose from typhoon and su-35, I would choose typhoon anyday of the week. As for the embargo, even when it finishes, I still see the Americans put the press on the Europeans if it tries to sell the typhoon.Sea Dog said:
FriedRiceNSpice
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F-22 has TVC.. it is far more manuevable than a J-7 and a Mig-19.
a few comments
The chances of PLAAF being offered the typhoon, are slim to none. Even if the various members of eurofighter agreed to the sale, the pressure from the US not to sell would be enormous. It is also very expensive. But this is all just speculation, until there is some evidence of a typhoon sale it remains fanatsy.
As to the SU-35, or whatever other designations that may be applied, I will consider this a viable option when I see some production SU-35s. The russians have become adept at promoting and selling paper planes (ie the Indian Su-30MKI), that actually still require massive development to become operationally ready. Sticking canards on a plane, and suggesting that it can have this avionics or these engines, does not make it production ready.
This also generally applies to the purchase or production of AL-41 engines in PRC.
IF it (su-35) does become production reality it will be a good choice.
As to the F-22 being overated, well I would be quite willing to take my chances. As more information is released about the F-22, the more it reveals itself as a superb and so far only true 5th gen aircraft. Yes like any platform it has its own inherent strengths and weakness's, but to suggest that it is therefore of low value, may do somethingto reinforce national pride but doesnt help in advancing these debates. and no I am not a Yank.
on this matter the level of discussion sometimes borders on little boys toilet talk. This dick is bigger, longer, fatter , prettier etc, etc, so therefore it is superior to another persons dick. Not only is this logic faulty, as any cassanova knows its not the tool but the skill of the operator that determines its success.
Some seem to confuse conjecture (=educated guess?), with facts. How can you possible rate planes that dont even exist -J-11D?? sorry about the whinge but I often read that this is meant to be a serious forum, so a mature approach may be beneficial to these goals
The chances of PLAAF being offered the typhoon, are slim to none. Even if the various members of eurofighter agreed to the sale, the pressure from the US not to sell would be enormous. It is also very expensive. But this is all just speculation, until there is some evidence of a typhoon sale it remains fanatsy.
As to the SU-35, or whatever other designations that may be applied, I will consider this a viable option when I see some production SU-35s. The russians have become adept at promoting and selling paper planes (ie the Indian Su-30MKI), that actually still require massive development to become operationally ready. Sticking canards on a plane, and suggesting that it can have this avionics or these engines, does not make it production ready.
This also generally applies to the purchase or production of AL-41 engines in PRC.
IF it (su-35) does become production reality it will be a good choice.
As to the F-22 being overated, well I would be quite willing to take my chances. As more information is released about the F-22, the more it reveals itself as a superb and so far only true 5th gen aircraft. Yes like any platform it has its own inherent strengths and weakness's, but to suggest that it is therefore of low value, may do somethingto reinforce national pride but doesnt help in advancing these debates. and no I am not a Yank.
on this matter the level of discussion sometimes borders on little boys toilet talk. This dick is bigger, longer, fatter , prettier etc, etc, so therefore it is superior to another persons dick. Not only is this logic faulty, as any cassanova knows its not the tool but the skill of the operator that determines its success.
Some seem to confuse conjecture (=educated guess?), with facts. How can you possible rate planes that dont even exist -J-11D?? sorry about the whinge but I often read that this is meant to be a serious forum, so a mature approach may be beneficial to these goals