What is this ? Next-gen Fighter for PLAAF ??

EternalVigil

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Su-27 Pilot said:
Every think of PLAAF advancements in Aerial stealth technology ?




Well when the nosecone angles and shape, the engines and its directional fins, the canopy, the wings and tailfins look just like the F22. Then yes I think its someone that used the F22 and to some extent the F18 to try and make a concept photoshop craft. Also known as a rip off. :)
 

MIGleader

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well, the design looks ok. its more curved than an f-22, doesnt have diamond wings, and has different tail fins.
 

Wingman

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Those pics are more fantasy than anything. Just computer graphics. Nobody knows what exactly the PLAAF is going to make next and the PLAAF is not going to tell anyone either.
 

Su-27 Pilot

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Wingman said:
Those pics are more fantasy than anything. Just computer graphics. Nobody knows what exactly the PLAAF is going to make next and the PLAAF is not going to tell anyone either.

Check the sinodefence main site for the future PLAAF frontline fighter drawings. Looks pretty close to me.
 

muyang523

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New J-xx
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The Oringinal J-12 fighter is the first jet fighter designed and produced all by Chinese technology itself. It is similar to J-7.

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muyang523

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I heard that they were developing 2 new fighters more advance than Ef-2000 and Rafale, but still inferior to F-22. It is speculated that 601 Institute has been working on designs based on conventional layout(J-13?)and 611 Institute has been working on designs based on canard/tailless delta wing (J-12?)

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"All designs are expected to feature an internal weapon bay to reduce RCS. So far it is still unclear whether the prototype will be able to fly in the next 5-7 years if everything goes smoothly. It has been rumored that J-12 would be powered by two 8,500kg/RD-33 class "medium thrust" turbofan engines with trust-vectoring nozzles to fullfill its high maneuverability requirement. A prototype of the trust-vectoring nozzle was displayed at 2002 Zhuhai Airshow by China Aeronautical Establishment/606 Institute in 2000. Consequently J-12 would have a 10t empty weight and a 15t normal TO weight, making it a medium weight fighter. On the other hand, J-13 might be powered by more powerful 12,500kg/AL-31F class "high thrust" turbofan engines which results in a normal TO weight exceeding 20t, making it a true heavy weight fighter. Whatever design XXJ will incoporate an advanced FBW system based upon the Active Control Technology developed by 601 Institute and tested on its J-8IIACT technology demonstrator. Its fire-control radar could feature an active phased array (Type 1475/KLJ5?). Russian assistance in this project has been anticipated too in terms of softwore support for calculating the RCS of various designs. The overall performance of XXJ is thought to be superior to EF-2000 and Rafale (stealth & agility) but still inferior to F/A-22 "(electronics & supercruise).


J-12
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J-13
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*Remember all of these are artist's pictures.
 

tphuang

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It's a little confusing what's going on right now. My feeling is that the twin-engined J-10 is CAC's next-generation fighter, probably has two RD-93/WS-10A engines, maybe upgraded to RD-333 in the future? Whereas, SAC is making a heavy fighter with two AL-41F/WS-14 engines.
 

ahho

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tphuang said:
It's a little confusing what's going on right now. My feeling is that the twin-engined J-10 is CAC's next-generation fighter, probably has two RD-93/WS-10A engines, maybe upgraded to RD-333 in the future? Whereas, SAC is making a heavy fighter with two AL-41F/WS-14 engines.

well i've been missing out alot and i am wondering is the al-41f turbofan or jet and is it a development between russia and china or just russia
 

ger_mark

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how can you say it will be more agis then ef2000 ?
also ef is the only plane wich reaches f22's electronics plus very strong engines
and from 2008 on the eurofighter will recive 3d vetor thrust control (f22 only has 2d)

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