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Kampfwagen

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The_Zergling said:
I disagree on the argument that all airsoft guns should be made of clear plastic (or something like that)

Indeed there have been instances of people getting shot for waving around airsoft guns like idiots when what they should have done was to keep their guns in a bag nondiscreetly, and only use them on private property. This kind of behavior only ruins the sport for the rest of us. (I admit that I am biased, being a former airsoft player myself)

In most serious airsoft groups, the rules are very clear. You are to treat your gun as if it were real steel, you will not brandish it outside of the playing area, it must not be loaded until the game begins, eye protection (preferably full face) must be wore at all times...

If you brandish a fake looking gun at the police, you might get shot. There used to be criminals who would paint their guns orange to make them look fake, but since fake-looking guns can look real and real-looking guns can be fake, you shouldn't take a chance.

I don't think it's a problem with the airsoft guns themselves. Besides, many airsoft players chose to start playing airsoft because they liked the relative realism (as opposed to paintball) so having guns that look like they come out of Toys R Us is kind of disheartening.

I agree.

I mean, not to knock police or anything, but they do tend to have itchy trigger fingers: Especialy rookies and rightfuly so, these people have to deal with gun weilding wackos and knife bearing crazies. I have heard of instances when young people or disturbed individuals using weapons that look nothing like the real thing, like Ray Guns or even Caulk-Guns, get shot or face the threat of being shot. These laws are typical of over idylic goveners and lawmakers who think in one sided terms. Not to sound harsh, but if your stupid enough to point a realistic weapon at

Living in New York, it's incredibly iritating to see stuff like this. It's also iritating to hear how these things are evil, then the ones who like them proclaim cops to be evil idiots. It just isint so black and white as many say, both coservative and liberal.

Also, MiG, a Paintball gun can seriously maim, injure or even kill when the pressure is too high on these guns. Besides, for years BB's have been used to kill small animals. So it isint much of a stretch to assume that they can kill.

However, all responsible owners of Airsoft weapons know this. The fact is that most who do these crimes are ether inexperenced children or those who buy the weapons for the sole use of pulling pranks.

Did you also know that any replica airsoft weapons have to be painted orange or blue in order to go overseas from or to america.
 
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sumdud

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If you are in America, you might have hear of a recent (earlier this week I think) prank-school shooting where some kid pulled out a BB gun and then got killed by the cops. (I am not very well informed of this case, however.)

So, don't play with guns.
 

Wingman

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Yeah someone also got killed by cops around here a few years back on Halloween when he was holding a machine gun as his Halloween costume.
 

The_Zergling

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Actually the "BB guns" used to hunt small animals and the BB guns used in airsoft matches are two different things... I got that from some airsoft boards, though I'm not exactly sure about the difference yet.

Generally airsoft bullets won't kill you or seriously injure you unless you get shot in the eye (which should never have happened in the first place, as any responsible airsoft player WILL wear protection)

I got shot in the head from a distance of about 3 feet by one of my friends with a P-90 AEG... It broke the skin and made a small bruise a little bit larger than the BB itself and stung like hell, but that was it.

There's definitely a difference between hunting BBs and airsoft BBs...

Something i noticed in this thread was some people saying that you shouldn't be waving around realistic guns in public. That in itself is true, but something that should also be noted is that even if your gun is painted orange or something of that sort you STILL shouldn't do it...

Because I remember in some of the gangsters in Chicago way back in the 20s would paint their guns orange to fool the police...

So either way, if your gun looks fake or real, don't push it...
 

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yes look at this sad :(

Fla. Student Shot by Police Memorialized


By TRAVIS REED, Associated Press Writer Mon Jan 16, 12:17 PM ET

LONGWOOD, Fla. - A 15-year-old student mortally wounded by police in a school bathroom while brandishing a pellet gun was remembered as an emotionally troubled but friendly teen.

"Everyone was his best friend," said 18-year-old Steven Lewis after a private candlelight vigil Sunday for his friend Christopher Penley. "He's still with me in my heart."

Penley was pronounced dead early Sunday, two days after a deputy shot him as the middle school boy held a pellet gun that closely resembled a 9 mm handgun.

The boy was clinically brain dead and kept alive so his organs could be harvested, said Mark Nation, a lawyer for Penley's parents. Four families received the teen's organs.

"Our hope is there are several families that are celebrating that lives have been saved because of this tragedy," Nation said.

On Friday, Penley was in a Milwee Middle School classroom with the pellet gun when another boy scuffled with him for control of the weapon. Penley was later cornered by sheriff's deputies and a SWAT team in a bathroom, authorities said.

Maurice Cotey, who said he grappled with Penley, said he told school officials that he felt Penley's gun and wasn't sure the weapon was real, but did not tell officers until after the shooting.

"I said the gun started to come apart, but I wasn't really sure if it was a toy or a real gun," Cotey told The Orlando Sentinel in Monday's editions.

Seminole County Sheriff Don Eslinger said the boy was suicidal and couldn't be talked into surrendering the weapon. The teen was shot after he raised the gun at a deputy, Eslinger said.

The sheriff said it wasn't until after the incident that authorities realized the weapon was only a pellet gun.


Nation said Saturday the boy's father, Ralph Penley, told authorities during a cell phone call as he rushed to the school after hearing of the confrontation that it wasn't a real gun. Nation said police wouldn't let the father inside when he arrived, and it wasn't clear if Christopher was shot before his arrival.

However, the Sentinel reported Sunday that Eslinger said Penley wasn't told of the events until after his son was shot.

"It's a total misunderstanding," Eslinger told the newspaper.

No one else at the 1,100-student school in suburban Orlando was injured.

The officer who fired, Lt. Mike Weippert, a 16-year SWAT team veteran, has been placed on restricted duty, a routine action when a deputy is involved in a shooting, Eslinger said.

The media was barred from the memorial service. Family and friends say the boy was emotionally troubled, reportedly bullied at school and had run away from home several times. Lewis said he "got along with everyone."

Mourners emerged from the church carrying candles, sobbing and hugging each other.

"There were a lot of songs, praying, the minister spoke a few times — trying to comfort the family that he's in a better place," said Heather Sinclair, who mentored Penley in elementary school in Winter Springs.

Pastor Robbie Hall said he addressed the roughly 135 people in the church with a message of peace.

"It's just unbelievable to me that he's gone," said Bucky Hurt, a family friend. "It's very, very devastating. Good kid too — it's a tragedy."

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Kampfwagen

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The_Zergling said:
Actually the "BB guns" used to hunt small animals and the BB guns used in airsoft matches are two different things... I got that from some airsoft boards, though I'm not exactly sure about the difference yet.

Generally airsoft bullets won't kill you or seriously injure you unless you get shot in the eye (which should never have happened in the first place, as any responsible airsoft player WILL wear protection)

I got shot in the head from a distance of about 3 feet by one of my friends with a P-90 AEG... It broke the skin and made a small bruise a little bit larger than the BB itself and stung like hell, but that was it.

There's definitely a difference between hunting BBs and airsoft BBs...

Something i noticed in this thread was some people saying that you shouldn't be waving around realistic guns in public. That in itself is true, but something that should also be noted is that even if your gun is painted orange or something of that sort you STILL shouldn't do it...

Because I remember in some of the gangsters in Chicago way back in the 20s would paint their guns orange to fool the police...

So either way, if your gun looks fake or real, don't push it...


That is true, the part about the BB's, but it also has something to do with the pressure. Back then, alot of the hunting BBs were ether spring loaded for fun or air-powered for hunting. With AEG's, that isint so much of a problem, but any object going that fast can cause serious harm to someone. If that had been a gas pressure gun and it was high enough it probably could have given you a concussion, Zerg. That, and the BB's back then had an Iron Pellet core to help proppel the pellet through the skin. Hell, if I remember correctly the first BB's used for hunting were little more than spare shotgun pellets.

And intresting info on the Gangsters, but wouldint dipping them in paint like that cause serious problems for the interior mechanisims for the weapons? Seems like quite a bit of hastle, what with the inevitable cleaning and clearing the chamber and such. Did they have areseol spray-cans back then?
 

T-U-P

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Kampfwagen said:
And intresting info on the Gangsters, but wouldint dipping them in paint like that cause serious problems for the interior mechanisims for the weapons? Seems like quite a bit of hastle, what with the inevitable cleaning and clearing the chamber and such. Did they have areseol spray-cans back then?
they don't have to dip them, all they have to do is to take a brush and paint them. painting the outside has nothing to do with the internal mechanisms of the gun.
 

The_Zergling

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Kampfwagen said:
That is true, the part about the BB's, but it also has something to do with the pressure. Back then, alot of the hunting BBs were ether spring loaded for fun or air-powered for hunting. With AEG's, that isint so much of a problem, but any object going that fast can cause serious harm to someone. If that had been a gas pressure gun and it was high enough it probably could have given you a concussion, Zerg. That, and the BB's back then had an Iron Pellet core to help proppel the pellet through the skin. Hell, if I remember correctly the first BB's used for hunting were little more than spare shotgun pellets.

Thanks, that's pretty much what I guessed about the difference regarding hunting and airsoft BBs...

Generally, the gas pressure guns we've played with have never really come close to exceeding 400 fps, which is the standard limit for airsoft weapons, anything above that and you'll have to get a different gun, it's too powerful...

Also, in some of the more disciplined airsoft groups, there is a minimum range rule, incidents like the one I described earlier happen mostly in amateur groups that don't take it too seriously... (Yes it's embarassing, but we had just started playing...)

But about the concussion... I have doubts about that. Taking into account the size of an airsoft bullet... you'd have to have a VERY powerful gun in order to get it up to the joules required to give a person a concussion, probably firearm grade, in that case an illegal firearm...
 
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