Video of how SU-33 could work off of a PLAN carrier
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Jeff Head said:
Eeennnhhh..ahem.Yawn...Is the video over yet? I wish when I worked on the flight deck we had so few aircraft on deck so I could have more room to roam....
Everytime I see the Russian CV viedos It just looks like the flight deck is devoid of action. But I know this thread is not about comparisons
The flying of the Su-33 does look awesome though. The few Naval avaitors that the Russians do have are very skilled...The refueling probe looks kinda small compared to a USN one. The USN refeuling probe is larger and extends futher from the aircraft probally creating a great measure of safety.
So guys just how many Su-33 will the PLAN need? 24 , 36 + spare parts??
And why is the IN buying Mig-29's and not Su-33's?
hmm, would like to watch this, but still need to finish watch last night's AI episode video first, hehehe.
I'm guessing at least 24. Considering that su-27kub could be a really nice strike aircraft, 48 would be possible. There are plenty of strike aircrafts in PLANAF, su-27kub would be better than anything China has right now for that mission.
I'm guessing at least 24. Considering that su-27kub could be a really nice strike aircraft, 48 would be possible. There are plenty of strike aircrafts in PLANAF, su-27kub would be better than anything China has right now for that mission.
tphuang said:
AI=American Idol?? Believe it or not I have never ever seen that show. And have no intention of watching it on pourpose.
Anyway could 48 Su-27 fit on the Varyag? I think it would be way to conjested. Creating a danger for an unskilled crew...No slight intended to the PLAN.. Or do you mean 48 aircraft with 36 on board and 12 in reserve for training?
Well, the Russians certainly do not employ the numbers or the mixture of aircraft that US carriers do...therefore, they are going to be a whole lot less active on that flight deck. However, if they got a chance to load those SU-33's up for bear...and went after something, they would represent a considerable threat.bd popeye said:
There were some pretty good manuevers that the SU-33 made...seems like they would be very tough at knife fighting range. We need that ALRAMM to replace the Phoenix IMHO, a Super Hornet loaded with two LRAMMs, 4 AMRAMMs, and 2 AIM-9s would be a very dangerous animal from 120 NM all the way in.bd popeye said:
I'd say they should carry 30-36 SU-33s on the Varyag. I believe the INS is buying Mig-29s because the SU-33 is much heavier and takes more space, and more deck required to take off. The Latest mods to the Mig-29s are no slouch. They do have shorter legs and less carry though.bd popeye said:So guys just how many Su-33 will the PLAN need? 24 , 36 + spare parts??
yeah.bd popeye said:
I'm not saying putting 48 on Varyag. 24 maybe? The other regiment will be based on shore and used as a strike aircraft. They can be used to replace the ones on Varyag. They also could be used for a future carrier. My opinion is that China will eventually have a carrier per fleet, so at least 75 carrier fighters are needed.
I think closer to 30. But also believe that the Chinese plan on building several carriers. If they intend to have one available in both fleets constantly (meaning two carriers available at all times), then due to maintenance and overhaul concerns through the years, they will end up building 3-4 carriers so they can rotate them through.tphuang said:
They would have to buy the SU-33 mods from the Russians, or at least buy the design rights from them and then make the changes themselves. On the J-10, they would have to make those changes themselves, or hire contract engineers from somewhere else, like Russia, to come in and do it. I know the Chinese have been looking hard at air shows in Russia and talking with them about the SU-33 type mods.Sendoh said:
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it dependes on when china plans to start operating it's carrier. If its soon, the su-33kub is the best choice. almost not real trials would be needed since the fighter can operate off of varyag without modifications.
Developing a navla j-10 is more difficult than simply strapping another enigne on the plane. New weapons and controls need to be mad,e and severe modifications to the airframe are needed. CAC may already be looking at a two-seater design right now, but its years from flying.
Developing a navla j-10 is more difficult than simply strapping another enigne on the plane. New weapons and controls need to be mad,e and severe modifications to the airframe are needed. CAC may already be looking at a two-seater design right now, but its years from flying.