USN to hold exercises in response to Sino-Russian alliance

EternalVigil

EternalVigil

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Finn McCool said:
The China threat theory is going to ruin the this century. The US is making the same mistake it has made several times already. We were scared on the USSR. We could have been allies, all the White western nations ruling the world. But mutural misunderstandings and fear got in the way and we had the Cold War. The same with China in WWII. The US was so afraid of communism that we backed the doomed Chiang regeime and instead could have been allies with the bigget country on Earth. The United States has another chance. It can have a friendly relationship with China and usher in an era of peace unseen since the Congress of Vienna in 1815 or we can have another Cold War, with all the human and economic destruction it will bring. Exercices like this are simply causing the CCP:china: leadership to view the US the same way Stalin did in the late 1940s:suspicion and fear. We should stop exercices like this.
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Are you high when talking about the USSR? They threatened to destroy the US and Europe with nuclear weapons on a regular basis and their expansion had to be contained.Does'nt matter if they are white or not. America doesnt like bullies.

Sic Semper Tyrannis-Its an old phrase the Virginia state motto and it holds true today on how the US views people and countries like that.
 
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darth sidious

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EternalVigil said:
Are you high when talking about the USSR? They threatened to destroy the US and Europe with nuclear weapons on a regular basis and their expansion had to be contained.Does'nt matter if they are white or not. America doesnt like bullies.

Sic Semper Tyrannis-Its an old phrase the Virginia state motto and it holds true today on how the US views people and countries like that.
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and what caused it??? it was US who put nukes in turkey before Cuba has russians

beofre 1949 US canstantly threaten sovyets with their nuclear monoply this trigered the arms race !!!!
 
The_Zergling

The_Zergling

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EternalVigil said:
Are you high when talking about the USSR? They threatened to destroy the US and Europe with nuclear weapons on a regular basis and their expansion had to be contained.Does'nt matter if they are white or not. America doesnt like bullies.

Sic Semper Tyrannis-Its an old phrase the Virginia state motto and it holds true today on how the US views people and countries like that.
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Unfortunately the Tyrant referred to in the state motto is the US in the eyes of many people around the world. Doesn't matter if they're white or not, the world doesn't like bullies.

Just to make a point that in the eyes of the USSR the US and Europe wasn't exactly pushing for peace either, and if you consider buying over allies with money "expansion" then that's how the USSR would have viewed the US and Europe's actions during the Cold War too. Both sides were equally firm regarding their stance on using military force to resolve issues.
 
PiSigma

PiSigma

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can't agree with you more zergling. every nation have the right to arm themselves. i'm not saying what USSR did here was right, but it's not USA's right to tell the world they are the only ones that can have nukes and no one else can not.

all this exercise is just sabre rattling, doesn't really mean much. i'm more interesting in what equipment they will be rattling with and not the numbers.
 
bd popeye

bd popeye

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My, my, my! You boys are getting excited about a US military excersise...:confused:

As most of you know I was in the USN for 20 years. I participated in many,many ,many excersise. way to many to count. If you go to this page;

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Scroll down and click on Foreign military or Joint Operations and you will see just how many "Military Excersises" the USN parcipitates.

An excersise of this magnitude is not planned overnight. I'm sure this excersise was planned some time ago.
 
The_Zergling

The_Zergling

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Agreed that exercises aren't exactly rare, Popeye.

However, the way they are viewed depends greatly on the current global political situation at the time, making some exercises noticeable, 'important', and more prone to 'saber-rattle' and provoke.
 
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The_Zergling said:
Agreed that exercises aren't exactly rare, Popeye.

However, the way they are viewed depends greatly on the current global political situation at the time, making some exercises noticeable, 'important', and more prone to 'saber-rattle' and provoke.
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Someone might say that Russia and China having joint exercises involving naval assaults/landings might be saber-rattling as well. I think that there is nothing wrong with this - those countries will be reading into this far too much if they object to it. If it's anything it's a reminder to the PRC not to get too cocky ref Taiwan. But as I said Russia and China can't complain given their own exercises last year.
 
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Nethappy

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Are you high when talking about the USSR? They threatened to destroy the US and Europe with nuclear weapons on a regular basis and their expansion had to be contained.Does'nt matter if they are white or not. America doesnt like bullies.
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But isn't America kinda being a bullies it self, in some way nowaday.

The QDR report noted China's steady but secretive military buildup since 1996.
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And this BS, China build up have been all over the news and everything for the last 10 year. If anyone was in China, Hong Kong or some part of asian or if they can read chinese. They being telling people for years.

What u mean a build up, anyway. Replacing some 60-70's tech with some early 90's tech is call a build up. Is improving one nation defence call a build up. Then I can call the USA the biggest build up in the wrong.

current global political situation at the time, making some exercises noticeable, 'important', and more prone to 'saber-rattle' and provoke.
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This I totally agree.

Many view US as declining superpower and China as a rising on dat on reason all this chinese would said Oil-on-Fire.

But it best for the 2 to work together, think of how much they can achieve together. Hell of a lot.
 
bd popeye

bd popeye

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But it best for the 2 to work together, think of how much they can achieve together. Hell of a lot.
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I agree 100%!!

Wouldn't it be so nice if the PLAN and the USN had joint excersises some day? Say dealing with humantairain relief efforts? That would be great:) .

Peace is great..because ..War sucks! Big time!
 
renmin

renmin

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bd popeye said:
I agree 100%!!

Wouldn't it be so nice if the PLAN and the USN had joint excersises some day? Say dealing with humantairain relief efforts? That would be great:) .

Peace is great..because ..War sucks! Big time!
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That would be the greatest excercise. From my prospective, China and America would be great allies. Too bad stinken politics prevents such a thing. Excercises improve relations dramatically. A Sino-US excersise could even form a Sino-US alliance!
 
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