US Navy's X-47B UCAS Aircraft
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More exercises. She flew jointly with Super Hornets now. Posted by Navyrco on the Aircraft Carrier II thread:
X-47B UCAS-D & F/A-18 combined operations onboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71)
We will see these flying seed and advanced mission, controlled by F-35Cs, and doing long range anti-area denial missions to clear the way for the heavy hitters. 15-20 years ahead of opposition...like the Zumwalts, rail-guns, lasers, etc.Now, the US just has to have the will to use them when needed.
X-47B UCAS-D & F/A-18 combined operations onboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71)
[video=youtube;n56_H9KN7eI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n56_H9KN7eI[/video]
We will see these flying seed and advanced mission, controlled by F-35Cs, and doing long range anti-area denial missions to clear the way for the heavy hitters. 15-20 years ahead of opposition...like the Zumwalts, rail-guns, lasers, etc.Now, the US just has to have the will to use them when needed.
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and that's the way the big boys "do it", what do the hillbilly's say??? Git ER DONE!
The capability of the 5th generation F-35s to control cooperative engagement of these aircraft and function as a local AEW&C for them and other aircraft, will be huge.
The US is in the process of accomplishing a real paradigm shift right before our eyes.
Only ONE Navy on this Earth can do what these photos depict.... The United States Navy! No brag, just fact.
See that F/A -18 on the corner over there on the fly by? Looks like "Maverick" (possible TOP GUN II movie scenario) is taking a closer look at his new Wing Man (X-47B).
He's doing what is known as a carrier break. Which is a flight pattern used before an aircraft lands. The aircraft flies on the starboard (right side) of the ship at about 1000-1500 feet altitude and as it approaches the bow the aircraft "breaks" to port (left) to go around the ship to get in the landing pattern.
I'm not sure if this chatter is indicative of UCLASS's future or if it is just typical observer skepticism... But what cannot be denied, is that the requirements for UCLASS seem to have been scaled back from its initial premise.
August 20, 2014
UCLASS: Unmanned or Just Unmanageable?
UCLASS Was the Answer to A2/AD. Then Came the Price Tag
By Loren Thompson
Although the Department of Defense has established high hurdles for initiating new weapons programs, every once in a while an effort slips through the process that seems doomed to failure from the start. The Navy’s Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) system is such a program.
Originally, UCLASS was supposed to be a stealthy, long-range system with aerial-refueling capability that could accomplish combat missions in contested airspace far from the carriers hosting it. Then the Navy saw the price-tag. So now it has become mainly a surveillance drone that might or might not have aerial refueling capability, and that might or might not be able to operate in contested air space.
When you see this kind of instability in a new program, it’s a tip-off that the effort is going to run into trouble during development. The Navy has decided to keep its draft request for proposals secret from everybody except the four industry teams competing to win a development contract. But just by listening to what the service says in public about the program, you get the feeling it isn’t ready for prime-time.
At least, that’s the feeling Congress seems to be getting. Senate appropriators have drafted language saying that no final solicitation to industry should be made until performance requirements stabilize and are blessed by the Pentagon’s top review panel. House authorizers have issued a report complaining UCLASS as currently described doesn’t add much to fleet capabilities.
So why is the sea service seeking $400 million in the fiscal year beginning October 1 to commence development of such a shaky idea? To answer that question, you have to go back to the dawn of the new millennium, when the Bush dministration was propounding the notion of “military transformation” driven by emerging technologies. One of the technologies the Navy latched onto at the time was unmanned aircraft — drones — that had the potential to stay airborne far longer than manned aircraft. That was a smart choice, up to a point: a decade of research on unmanned-aircraft concepts eventually led to the land-based, very-long-range MQ-4C Triton and the sea-based, vertical-ascent MQ-8B Fire Scout, systems that will greatly enhance the situational awareness of warfighters.
But unmanned systems have important limitations, particularly when operated from the crowded and inherently dangerous decks of aircraft carriers. There needs to be a compelling reason for putting them there. Thus far, no such rationale has materialized for UCLASS. The Navy already possesses abundant surveillance and strike assets, which are bolstered by the capabilities of other services (most notably the Air Force). So spending billions of dollars on an ill-defined program just to have a carrier-based drone is a dubious proposition — especially when the service says it is challenged to fund its next-generation replacement of Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines, arguably the most important modernization effort in the entire joint inventory.
The Navy might be able to craft a more convincing case for UCLASS if it were closely linked to defeating the “anti-access, area denial” strategies of countries like China. But leading think tanks and legislators such as Rep. Randy Forbes (a genuine expert on maritime affairs) say UCLASS as currently conceived can’t do that. In fact, no sea-based drone can if the acquisition strategy begins with affordability. To extend the reach of carrier-based aviation into contested areas, manned and unmanned aircraft alike need things like stealth, situational awareness and aerial refueling — items that inevitably drive up costs.
According to Sydney Freedberg of the widely-read Breaking Defense web-site, the Pentagon’s top acquisition officials will meet September 10 to determine whether UCLASS is sufficiently mature to move forward. Chances are they won’t like what they see. They will quiz the Navy on whether UCLASS is really needed given its scaled-back performance features, and they won’t be impressed if program managers say they have the option of adding stealth or payload or refueling capability later. In the current fiscal environment, there simply isn’t enough money to develop every “nice-to-have” program. There has to be a clearly articulated need, and a convincing solution. UCLASS, at least as it exists today, may not be able to meet that standard.
Loren B. Thompson is Chief Operating Officer of the non-profit Lexington Institute and Chief Executive Officer of Source Associates, a for-profit consultancy.
This article originally appeared on the Early Warning Blog, a publication of the Lexington Institute.
August 20, 2014
UCLASS: Unmanned or Just Unmanageable?
UCLASS Was the Answer to A2/AD. Then Came the Price Tag
By Loren Thompson
Although the Department of Defense has established high hurdles for initiating new weapons programs, every once in a while an effort slips through the process that seems doomed to failure from the start. The Navy’s Unmanned Carrier-Launched Airborne Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) system is such a program.
Originally, UCLASS was supposed to be a stealthy, long-range system with aerial-refueling capability that could accomplish combat missions in contested airspace far from the carriers hosting it. Then the Navy saw the price-tag. So now it has become mainly a surveillance drone that might or might not have aerial refueling capability, and that might or might not be able to operate in contested air space.
When you see this kind of instability in a new program, it’s a tip-off that the effort is going to run into trouble during development. The Navy has decided to keep its draft request for proposals secret from everybody except the four industry teams competing to win a development contract. But just by listening to what the service says in public about the program, you get the feeling it isn’t ready for prime-time.
At least, that’s the feeling Congress seems to be getting. Senate appropriators have drafted language saying that no final solicitation to industry should be made until performance requirements stabilize and are blessed by the Pentagon’s top review panel. House authorizers have issued a report complaining UCLASS as currently described doesn’t add much to fleet capabilities.
So why is the sea service seeking $400 million in the fiscal year beginning October 1 to commence development of such a shaky idea? To answer that question, you have to go back to the dawn of the new millennium, when the Bush dministration was propounding the notion of “military transformation” driven by emerging technologies. One of the technologies the Navy latched onto at the time was unmanned aircraft — drones — that had the potential to stay airborne far longer than manned aircraft. That was a smart choice, up to a point: a decade of research on unmanned-aircraft concepts eventually led to the land-based, very-long-range MQ-4C Triton and the sea-based, vertical-ascent MQ-8B Fire Scout, systems that will greatly enhance the situational awareness of warfighters.
But unmanned systems have important limitations, particularly when operated from the crowded and inherently dangerous decks of aircraft carriers. There needs to be a compelling reason for putting them there. Thus far, no such rationale has materialized for UCLASS. The Navy already possesses abundant surveillance and strike assets, which are bolstered by the capabilities of other services (most notably the Air Force). So spending billions of dollars on an ill-defined program just to have a carrier-based drone is a dubious proposition — especially when the service says it is challenged to fund its next-generation replacement of Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines, arguably the most important modernization effort in the entire joint inventory.
The Navy might be able to craft a more convincing case for UCLASS if it were closely linked to defeating the “anti-access, area denial” strategies of countries like China. But leading think tanks and legislators such as Rep. Randy Forbes (a genuine expert on maritime affairs) say UCLASS as currently conceived can’t do that. In fact, no sea-based drone can if the acquisition strategy begins with affordability. To extend the reach of carrier-based aviation into contested areas, manned and unmanned aircraft alike need things like stealth, situational awareness and aerial refueling — items that inevitably drive up costs.
According to Sydney Freedberg of the widely-read Breaking Defense web-site, the Pentagon’s top acquisition officials will meet September 10 to determine whether UCLASS is sufficiently mature to move forward. Chances are they won’t like what they see. They will quiz the Navy on whether UCLASS is really needed given its scaled-back performance features, and they won’t be impressed if program managers say they have the option of adding stealth or payload or refueling capability later. In the current fiscal environment, there simply isn’t enough money to develop every “nice-to-have” program. There has to be a clearly articulated need, and a convincing solution. UCLASS, at least as it exists today, may not be able to meet that standard.
Loren B. Thompson is Chief Operating Officer of the non-profit Lexington Institute and Chief Executive Officer of Source Associates, a for-profit consultancy.
This article originally appeared on the Early Warning Blog, a publication of the Lexington Institute.