US Navy Ford Class nuclear carriers

Obi Wan Russell

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Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier

A lot of publications describe all the Nimitz's after Carl Vinson as a seperate class, though I disagree. The improvements and differences form the first three were not significant enough until the Reagan, and CVN-77 definitely qualifies as a sub-class at least, having been officially described as a 'Transitional Ship' between the Nimitz class and the CVN-78 class. I have an awful feeling that if ex president Ford passes away before the new ship is named (he is in his nineties) then Congressional pressure will mount to name the ship after him. Timing is everything...
 

bd popeye

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Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier

Jedi Master Obi Wan sez;
A lot of publications describe all the Nimitz's after Carl Vinson as a seperate class, though I disagree. The improvements and differences form the first three were not significant enough until the Reagan, and CVN-77 definitely qualifies as a sub-class at least, having been officially described as a 'Transitional Ship' between the Nimitz class and the CVN-78 class. I have an awful feeling that if ex president Ford passes away before the new ship is named (he is in his nineties) then Congressional pressure will mount to name the ship after him. Timing is everything...

You are so right. Dude is so old..I mean old. Plus he has been very ill lately..maybe they can name a LCS after him? Or one of the new Advanced Dry(T-AKE) cargo ships after the man.

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...He wuz the Prez afterall.:eek: .although he was never elected!

I visited the USS Ronald Reagan at NASNI with a friend that was still on active duty back in 2004. Having served on the Nimitz I can tell you first hand from the very little I saw the ship is very different from CVN-68.
 

bd popeye

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Time is running out for the Sec. USN to name CVN-78 something other than USS Gerald Ford..Whadda joke...:(

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Name of new carrier a matter of some debate

By JACK DORSEY, The Virginian-Pilot
© December 18, 2006

Tom Trujillo has about run out of ideas to persuade the Navy to name its next aircraft carrier the USS America.

The former petty officer on the previous flattop America - which was based in Norfolk before it was retired in 1996 and sunk in 2005 in an experiment - has written to Navy Secretary Donald Winter many times.

He's asked Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., to help arrange a meeting with the secretary to discuss the name issue. It hasn't happened. Not only that, there's an effort in Congress to name the next carrier after former President Gerald Ford.

"There can be no better way to establish the next class of carriers than by naming the first of the class America," Walt Waite, another former crew member, wrote to Winter.

"If the name America is pushed aside in favor of Gerald Ford," he added, "then the small group of politicians win and the voice of the people will once again be ignored."

Trujillo, along with Waite, runs a Web site called "Name CVN 78 USS America." (The address is
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.) They are president and vice president, respectively, of the USS America Carrier Veterans Association.

They've gotten more than 800 people to petition Winter on the issue, and they say they've written to 950 newspapers trying to get their effort some ink.

An 1819 act of Congress gives the s ecretary of the Navy responsibility for choosing ship names, a prerogative he still exercises, according to the Naval Historical Center's Web site.

Sens. John Warner, R-Va., and Carl Levin, D-Mich., amended the 2007 defense bill to encourage the Navy to name the next carrier after Ford, who served in the Navy during World War II and grew up in Michigan.

"At least we were able to get the wording changed in the amendment from being a mandate to a recommendation," Waite said.

Warner is the outgoing chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Levin is the incoming chairman.

So far, nothing has worked, the former sailors said.

"You would think this would be a slam dunk with all these guys spouting off about patriotism," Trujillo said by telephone from his Connecticut home.

In a letter to Waite last month, Capt. Rebecca Brenton, special assistant for public affairs to the Navy secretary, said it is understandable many people support naming the next carrier America.

"As I am sure you are aware, a sense of Congress, while not legally binding, must be carefully considered as part of the ship-naming process," Brenton wrote.

"That looks as if they are setting us up for a let down," Waite said by telephone from his Pennsylvania home. "Previously there was reason to hold out hope, but this letter looks like he's squashing that."

Trujillo said Ford doesn't have the standing to have a carrier named after him.

"While I certainly don't agree with naming carriers after politicians, does Gerald R. Ford live up to the likes of a Washington, Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Lincoln or a Reagan?" he asked. Those are the names of aircraft carriers, all currently in commission.

Waite, in a letter to Winter last week noted that Ford already has a freeway, library, museum, airport, foundation and school at the University of Michigan named after him.

"And quite frankly, sir, that is enough," he wrote. " Mr. Ford did nothing to deserve having the Navy's mightiest ship named for him except to be friends with Sen. Levin. There are dozens of more deserving Americans whose names belong on Navy ships before Mr. Ford's."

Efforts to sway the Navy secretary to name a ship after a city, a hero or a famous person are not new, said Defense Department spokesman Kevin Wensing. When residents of New Mexico asked that a ship be named for their state, more than 20,000 signed petitions, he said.

"We said, OK, enough, we get it," Wensing said. In December 2004, then-Navy Secretary Gordon England named the sixth ship of the Virginia-class of nuclear-powered submarines the New Mexico.

Wensing would not disclose other names being suggested for CVN 78.

He did say, however, that the ship-naming process is so varied that it doesn't always follow any reason. For example, the three submarines in the Seawolf class are named Seawolf, Connecticut and Jimmy Carter, Wensing said.

"So they are named after a seawolf, whatever that is, a state and a former president. Go figure."
 

szbd

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Re: The Building of America's next "super" Carrier

There will be a USS New York(LPD-21) is under construction. The bow is built from steel salvaged from the WTC.

Chinese steel company Bao Gang got at least 50000 tons of WTC steel (initial shipment, don't know about afterwards). Also some india companies got some. The price was said to be $120/ton.
 

Jeff Head

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Keeping on with this thread and now making it generic for each ensuing US Navy Super carrier, we can now discuss the USS Gerald. R. Ford. The first in class of the new Ford Class carriers, which will revolutionize a number of aspects of aircraft carrier operations.

From a much more efficient and smaller reactors that prodcue over 200% more electricity each than the old ones, to EMALS catapaults, to dsitrubuted computing and networking, to new weapons handling, to new directed energy defenses, to the new, smaller island, to reducing down to theree elevators, these carriers are going to be the next step in carrier evolution.

To this point now, the carrier is moving along rapidly and is over 75% structurally complete.

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On October 5, 2012, the largest deck "lift" occurred where an over 1,000 mectric ton unit was lifted onto the deck which comprised the gallery deck to flight deck bridge assembly. It was the 435th of over 500 lifts necessary to complete the structure of the vessel.

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Here's ia an article regarding this lift:

Huntiington Ingalls Newport News Shipbuilding said:
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NEWPORT NEWS, Va.
Oct. 5, 2012 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE)

Huntington Ingalls Industries announced today that its Newport News Shipbuilding (NNS) division placed a 1,026-metric ton unit — roughly the weight of six Boeing 747 commercial airplanes — onto the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) Thursday.

"This is the heaviest unit to be moved during the ship's construction and the largest lift our crane has ever made," said Rolf Bartschi, NNS' vice president of CVN 78 carrier construction. "This lift represents the strategic construction improvements of the Ford-class carriers. The concept during design of the ship was to build larger units than were built on the Nimitz-class carriers, resulting in fewer crane lifts to the dry dock. This lift is a significant achievement for our shipbuilding team on this first-of-class ship and reflects the pride and capability of the entire team."

Gerald R. Ford is being built using modular construction, a process where smaller sections of the ship are welded together to form large structural units, outfitting is installed, and the large unit is lifted into the dry dock. Of the nearly 500 total structural lifts needed to complete the ship, 435 have been accomplished. The lifts are accomplished using the shipyard's 1,050-metric-ton gantry crane, one of the largest in the Western Hemisphere.

At 128 feet wide and 128 feet long, the gallery deck to flight deck bridge assembly comprises 14 steel sections and includes firefighting, jet fuel and catapult systems, jet blast deflectors and electrical servicing stations.

The next major life, and an important milestone for the carrier, is the lift of the ISland structure onto the carrier schedule to occur before the end of Novmber. We will document that lif here as well.
 
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bd popeye

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Time is running out for the Sec. USN to name CVN-78 something other than USS Gerald Ford..Whadda joke...

Sigh.. still don't like the name. I just cannot get use to it. I don't have a problem with Nimitz, Kennedy, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D Esienhower, Ronald Reagan, George Washington or Abraham Lincoln.

I would have preferred Enterprise, Coral Sea, Yankee Station station instead.
 
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Jeff Head

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Sigh.. still don't like the name. I just cannot get use to it. I don't have a problem with Nimitz, Kennedy, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D Esienhower, Nimitz, Ronald Reagan, George Washington or Abraham Lincoln.

I would have preferred Enterprise, Coral Sea, Yankee Station station instead.
Understood, and I concur. but it is what it is and they aint changing it now. We'll have Kennedy next. I still hope the third is Enterprise.

It is just not right to not have a USS Enterprise around. Heck, since I was old enough to start thinking about Navy Ships...about 6 years old...there has been the USS Enterprise out there protecting life and liberty and in pursuit of anyone and anything that threatened it!

But the building of this new carrier is amazing. I was at
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and we were able to go by the yards there. Just amazing the way they are pulling it together.

One other note for you, Popeye. You know in the years you and I have been watching the Chinese Carrier, CV-16 Lianing come together (and it is, as we both have said an amazing undertaking and accomplishment for the Chinese)...but it will still be a while (probably at least two years if not more) before it is truly out there with a complete and initially trained airwing..the US will have completed three 100,000 ton super carriers...the USS Ronald Reagan, CVN-76, the USS George H.W. Bush, CVN-77, and now the USS Gerald R. Ford, CVN-78. Pretty amazing...and the USS John Kennedy, CVN-79, is already building and right behind the Ford.
 

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Enterprise, Coral Sea, Yankee Station station.

I read somewhere that one of the later members of the class was going to be named Enterprise. It will be a sad day when the current one is decommissioned, sadly not long now, always thought it looked better than the Nimitz class!
 

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Understood, and I concur. but it is what it is and they aint changing it now. We'll have Kennedy next. I still hope the third is Enterprise.

It is just not right to not have a USS Enterprise around. Heck, since I was old enough to start thinking about Navy Ships...about 6 years old...there has been the USS Enterprise out there protecting life and liberty and in pursuit of anyone and anything that threatened it!

But the building of this new carrier is amazing. I was at
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and we were able to go by the yards there. Just amazing the way they are pulling it together.

One other note for you, Popeye. You know in the years you and I have been watching the Chinese Carrier, CV-16 Lianing come together (and it is, as we both have said an amazing undertaking and accomplishment for the Chinese)...but it will still be a while (probably at least two years if not more) before it is truly out there with a complete and initially trained airwing..the US will have completed three 100,000 ton super carriers...the USS Ronald Reagan, CVN-76, the USS George H.W. Bush, CVN-77, and now the USS Gerald R. Ford, CVN-78. Pretty amazing...and the USS John Kennedy, CVN-79, is already building and right behind the Ford.

I agree, USS enterprise just has a nice touch to it. I don't like this naming of aircraft carriers to Presidents. It gets overly political.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: The Building of America's next "Super" Carrier, CVN-78 USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78

Sorry Jeff, but if you talk about the names of ships and those names are derived from politicians it is really diffucult to say a name is or is not acceptable and for political reasons while keeping politics out of it.
I remember talking about US Presidents with an American student in 1976 and she and I agreed that Richard Milhous Nixon was the best US President since 1945. What about a USS Richard Milhous Nixon?
I believe vessels should not be named for any living politician...and that any politician name should be held off for at least 20 years after their death so history can have the chance to show what their overall impact was...and then, for a US Naval combatant, it should be because of very significant US naval, or overall military impact, and witheld if there was any major scandal that resulted in impeachment or resignation.

That's my feeling and if that meant the Reagan had to wait another ten years...so be it. Same for Bush. Both of those men had significant impact on US Naval issues...but we should wait until history bears that out.

Under such a program, Clinton or Nixon would never be considered.

As it is, we are making the naming of US capital vessels a political football and I feel it is completely disgraceful.
 
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