US Navy DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class

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A little more bad news for the Zumwalts
New External DDG-1000 Mast Reduces Ship’s Stealth From Original Design
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March 3, 2016 12:10 PM
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A newly revealed configuration of sensors set for next-generation destroyer Zumwalt (DDG-1000) could make the ship less stealthy than originally intended, several naval experts told USNI News on Wednesday.

According to a new artist’s concept of the configuration from the service, the three ships in the Zumwalt-class will position sensors originally designed to be embedded in the ships’ composite deckhouses on a mast positioned on the front of the deck house, with several more sensors on either side of the deck house.

The change will sacrifice some of the benefits of the composite deckhouse design, conceived to make the ship harder to detect by an enemy’s radar. The antennas for the sensors would have been mounted on the superstructure much like the flush antennas on the U.S. fleet of stealth aircraft.

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An artists rendering of Zumwalt’s original design prior to the Nunn-McCurdy restructure showing the original sensor configuration on the deckhouse.

Instead, to save weight and cost, the antennas will be installed on the outside of the superstructure, Naval Sea Systems Command told USNI News.

NAVSEA provided USNI News of a description of the changes, saying the Zumwalt-class would still perform within the Navy’s requirements for the stealth of the ship.

“The current DDG-1000 topside configuration is a performance and weight improvement and cost-avoidance initiative. This configuration adds a mast to the forward part of the deckhouse and relocates several communications systems including Ultra High Frequency (UHF), Very High Frequency (VHF), data link and the wind sensor from the deckhouse to the mast,” read the statement.
“This configuration will be present on all three ships and provides improved performance redundancy, cost avoidance and weight reduction, while still meeting Key Performance Parameters (KPP) requirements for Radar Cross Section (RCS).”

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The starboard view Zumwalt DDG-1000 from a Dec. 7, 2016 underway. US Navy Image

The RCS is a measure of stealth. The lower a RCS, the smaller a ship or aircraft appears on radar.

(For example, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is said to have the RCS of a “steel marble,” from certain angles.)

The original design of the ship would have had a much smaller RCS, but cost considerations prompted the Navy over the last several years to make the trades in increasing RCS to save money, Bryan Clark, naval analyst Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) and former special assistant to past Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert, told USNI News on Wednesday.

However, he said, the design still meets the minimum requirements for what the Navy asked for in its initial DDG-1000 requirements – the “threshold,” in acquisition speak.

“[The RCS] is still lower than their threshold but higher than it could have been,” Clark told USNI News on Wednesday.

Retired Navy captain and naval analyst Chris Carlson told USNI News that mast bore a resemblance to the configuration on the Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyers (DDG-51).

Several sources told USNI News the changes to the mast were a direct result of a downscale in capabilities the service made to the ship class following a 2010 Nunn-McCurdy restructure – a federal law that requires the Defense Department recertify a program after costs have increased of 25 percent per unit above the original estimate. The program tripped the legislation when the Department of Defense cut the program to three hulls from seven, spiking the price-per-unit.

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As part of the Nunn-McCurdy restructure, the Navy shed capabilities – like canceling the ship’s S-band volume search radar– on the hulls to bring the cost down on the $22.1-billion, three-ship program.

Other cost-saving choices have trickled out later, like
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The first ship – Zumwalt – is set to start a round of builders trials later this month ahead of a delivery of the ship’s hull to the Navy from shipbuilder General Dynamics Bath Iron Works (BIW) later this year.

Following delivery, the ship will complete the outfitting of its combat system in San Diego.

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that's a bummer! always short changing and deviating from original design and intentions to make it less capable than initial specifications. Not too different than the Raptor. The deck house and superstructure needs to be clean, flush and smooth like a baby's butt! all these protrusions sux!
 
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Repairs Made to New Destroyer Zumwalt
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probably yes, as yesterday
Navy's Largest Destroyer Heads out to Sea for Trials
The nation's largest and most expensive destroyer headed out to sea Monday for final builder trials before being presented to the Navy for inspection.

Engineers and technicians at Bath Iron Works are going to focus on propulsion, mobility and safety to ensure the future USS Zumwalt is shipshape before the next trials, in which the Navy will perform a pre-delivery inspection.

Rear Adm. Peter Fanta, director of surface warfare, said he likes what he has heard from the ship's commanding officer during the first trials in December.

"He was extremely impressed with the stability of the ship, particularly in hard turns, particularly in its seakeeping ability," he told The Associated Press.

The 600-foot ship is unlike anything ever built for the Navy. It features an angular shape to deflect enemy radar, a wave-piercing "tumblehome" hull, composite deckhouse, electric propulsion and new guns. Automation allows it to operate with a smaller crew than existing destroyers.

But those innovations come at a high cost. The Zumwalt, the first of three ships in the class, will cost at least $4.4 billion.

The price ballooned to the point some in the Navy tried to kill the program. Instead, the program originally envisioned for 32 ships was truncated.

The ship, which will be based in San Diego, stands to play a role in the Obama administration's "rebalance" of resources to Asia and the Pacific, where
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is flexing its military muscle in the South China Sea. But Fanta said he'll want a full assessment of capabilities before determining exactly how the ship will be used.

More than 200 Bath Iron Works employees and Navy personnel are participating in the builder trials to prepare the ship for delivery to the Navy. The ship is due to be commissioned into service in October.

After the Navy takes delivery, there will be even more assessments, including rough-weather tests to determine the performance of the unusual hull that gives the ship a pyramid shape.

"We go to find the most miserable places in the ocean and drive at various sea stages," Fanta said.

The Navy believes it knows how the ship will perform, but it won't know for sure until all tests are completed, he said.

The departure of the warship in the midst of a snowstorm on Monday marks the second time the ship has gone to sea.

The "alpha" trials in December, which gave engineers their first opportunity to test systems at sea, were deemed a success even though repairs were needed on one of the ship's 12 motor drives.
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Navy's Largest Destroyer Heads out to Sea for Trials

The nation's largest and most expensive destroyer headed out to sea Monday for final builder trials before being presented to the Navy for inspection.
Builder's trials are ritical steps on the path to commissioning.

I have heard very good reports concerning those first trials, and we hpe that these second ones go as well. For such a new ship to be able to pass through the builder's trials, given the new propulsion and electrical systems, as well as the new hull form, etc., speaks very highly of the Bath and the deisngers and builders of the ships.

But she has a long ways to go yet. Afyter these successful trials the US Navy will begin exercising her in depth.

Here are some more pics of her departing on these trials.


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Beautiful ship.
 

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Builder's trials are ritical steps on the path to commissioning.

I have heard very good reports concerning those first trials, and we hpe that these second ones go as well. For such a new ship to be able to pass through the builder's trials, given the new propulsion and electrical systems, as well as the new hull form, etc., speaks very highly of the Bath and the deisngers and builders of the ships.

But she has a long ways to go yet. Afyter these successful trials the US Navy will begin exercising her in depth.

Here are some more pics of her departing on these trials.


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Beautiful ship.

Nor rain, nor snow, nor sleet, nor dead of night could keep the Zumwalt away from her sea duties.;)
 
I think in terms of timing it is likely to be the third vessel.
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Admiral: Maine shipbuilders won’t install electric gun on new destroyer
The Navy is still considering putting an electric-powered gun aboard a Maine-built destroyer, but the futuristic weapon would be installed after the ship is built, a top Navy officer said.

The construction schedule is too far along to install an electromagnetic railgun aboard the Lyndon B. Johnson at Bath Iron Works, ‘‘but it’s certainly an option after the ship leaves the yard,’’ said Rear Adm. Pete Fanta, director of surface warfare.

Fanta proposed skipping the step of putting a prototype weapon aboard another ship this year and instead putting an operational gun aboard the Lyndon B. Johnson.

No decisions have been made.

Railguns use pulses of electricity to fire projectiles at six to seven times the speed of sound, producing enough kinetic energy to destroy targets.

It’s one of several technologies the Navy is considering to increase firepower at a lower cost than missiles. Fanta said it’s an engineering race to discover the best system.

‘‘The way we put it to the research and development team is, ‘You’ve got to earn your way aboard,’’’ Fanta said. ‘‘I want to make sure I’m not putting a science project aboard. I want to make sure I’m putting a war-fighting effort on board.’’

The Lyndon B. Johnson is the third and final destroyer in the Zumwalt class under construction at Bath Iron Works, a General Dynamics subsidiary.

The destroyers make an attractive platform for a railgun, laser system or other energy-based weapons because it uses powerful marine turbines to help produce up to 78 megawatts of electricity for use in propulsion, weapons and sensors.

Bath Iron Works had no comment Tuesday, deferring questions to the Navy.

John Portela, a shipyard worker, said he was not surprised by the admiral’s comments. Installing a railgun at the shipyard would mean a major redesign, he said. Such upgrades are often completed during post-shakedown work elsewhere, he said.
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Navy's Largest Destroyer Heads out to Sea for Trials

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she's back:
Navy: Destroyer Zumwalt Back at Bath Iron Works After Builder’s Trials
Next generation guided missile destroyer Zumwalt (DDG-1000) is back at General Dynamics Bath Iron Works shipyard after four days of successful builder’s trails, according to the service.

The service will now prepare for next month’s acceptance trials ahead of delivery of the ship to the Navy. The ship arrived Thursday afternoon to the Maine yard, sources who saw the ship return to its pier at BIW told USNI News.

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, “representatives from BIW, PCU Zumwalt, the Navy’s Program Office, SUPSHIP Bath and various technical subject matter experts, including Raytheon personnel, tested several ship systems including key propulsion and auxiliary systems as well as boat operations,” read a Friday statement provided to USNI News by the service.
“These trials also served as a unique opportunity for the crew to train side-by-side with representatives from industry. The Navy will continue to assess system performance over the coming weeks.”

The ship’s delivery and acceptance will only be for the ship’s hull, mechanical and electrical (HM&E) systems. The ship features a new integrated power system that is much more complex than existing navy ship propulsion designs that have reportedly resulted in schedule and cost increases for the production of the three ships in the $22 billion class.

Following delivery of the ship to the service, Zumwalt and its crew will go to San Diego to have the bulk of the combat system installed in part to free up space for additional production at the shipyard.

The following is the complete March 25, 2016 statement from the service on the trials.
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She have do good trials, homeported to San Diego

Despite being 40% larger than an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, the
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hull and composite deckhouse reduces radar return. Overall, the destroyer's angular build makes it "50 times harder to spot on radar than an ordinary destroyer.
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