US Navy DDG 1000 Zumwalt Class

How about these?

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better than the one I posted :) but still not this angle:
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(I clipped this out from, let me see,
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Jeff Head

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I wonder about the correct term for the "nose in the bow"; how is it called? (unofficially it's a nose, I guess :)
The correct term is "bulbous bow."

In destroyers, frigates, and other surface combatants employing them, they will generally house the bow active sonar. But numerous vessels without sonar employ the bulbous bow form to one degree or another as well.

The bulbous bow, as a design feature, helps enhance the way the water flows around the hull...particularly at speed, and helps with buoyancy of the front of the ship and reduces pitching.
 

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Nice ! the more stealth ship with Visby Corvettes ofc more big and RCS also i don' t get a number only a La Fayette ( 1st generation stealth ships after Burke was a first step but no really stealth for masts, antennas) have RCS equivalent to a trawler.
 
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Take them to Sea...that is where they belong and what they were made for.

have you heard about DDG-1002 yet?
General Dynamics Destroyer Reviewed by U.S. for Cancellation
Pentagon officials are weighing whether to cancel the last of three ships in General Dynamics Corp.’s $22 billion program to build new destroyers even though the vessel is already under construction.

Canceling the USS Lyndon B. Johnson, a Zumwalt-class destroyer, is a topic that’s “to be reviewed in the next few weeks” by teams formed by the Pentagon’s independent cost-assessment office, according to a Defense Department briefing document dated Aug. 25. Two officials familiar with the issue confirmed that cancellation discussions are under way although no decision has been made.

The Zumwalt-class destroyer is designed as a multimission land-attack vessel that will use electricity generated by gas turbines to power all of its systems, including weapons. The cancellation discussions, part of planning for the fiscal 2017 budget, are the latest twist for a program that’s been buffeted by delays, rising costs and changing plans.

From an initial 32, the quantity planned was reduced over the years to seven and then three. The estimated procurement cost for all three vessels has increased by 37 percent since 2009 to $12.3 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service.

The estimated construction cost for the third destroyer, designated DDG-1002, is about $3.5 billion. A key question is how much of that could be saved by canceling a ship that’s about 41 percent complete, according to the officials, who asked not to be identified discussing internal deliberations.

‘Trial Balloons’
“The Pentagon has a track record of putting out trial balloons of potential program changes, and we’d view this in that light,” Robert Stallard, a defense analyst for RBC Capital Markets, said in a note to clients.

“The shipbuilding budget is well supported in Congress, but the Navy does face a spending squeeze from 2020 as work ramps up” on the Ohio-class submarine replacement program, Stallard wrote. Cutting one of the destroyers “will save a stack of money and have limited impact” on the Navy’s capability, though it will raise the per-ship cost of the remaining two vessels, he wrote.

A practical consideration for Defense Department officials is whether they can get away with canceling the ship considering the program’s strong support in Congress. Lawmakers rejected a Navy plan in 2008 to limit the Zumwalt class to two ships.

Maine Senators
The ships are built at General Dynamics’ Bath Iron Works shipyard in Maine. Senator Angus King of Maine, an independent, sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and the state’s other senator, Republican Susan Collins, heads a Senate Appropriations subcommittee and serves on its defense panel.

Asked about discussions of a potential cancellation, Commander Thurraya Kent, a Navy spokeswoman, said “it would be inappropriate to discuss business-sensitive information or speculate on budget deliberations.”

The ship was reviewed last month as part of a regularly scheduled meeting, and “the internal discussions of this meeting are not publicly releasable,” Kent said in an e-mail.

Lucy Ryan, a General Dynamics spokeswoman, said in an e-mail, “We’re not going to speculate” on any future Navy budget action. “This decision is entirely up to the Navy.”

The Navy is reviewing a Bath Iron Works proposal to adjust target costs for the second and third vessels in the class, with an updated proposal planned for December, according to a Navy program update last month.

Raytheon, Huntington
Raytheon Co. makes the vessel’s combat and mission systems. The Navy is renegotiating with Raytheon to revise the contract options for mission systems for fiscal 2015 to 2017, according to the briefing document. Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc. built the composite deckhouse for the first two vessels. The Navy in late 2013 decided to use a steel deckhouse built by General Dynamics for the third vessel.

Separately, the Navy said delivery of the first vessel will slip beyond November, which was already 14 months later than originally scheduled. Kent said contractor-sponsored dockside tests would start in November, followed in December by trials at sea. Rear Admiral Jim Downey, program manager for the ships, estimates the new delivery date for the Zumwalt will be closer to May 2016.

The Navy is also evaluating the delivery schedules for the remaining two vessels, according to Kent. The Navy and the shipbuilder are executing the test program “with extreme rigor to ensure the highest standards of quality and completeness when the ship sails,” she said.

Management Issues
In an assessment for the Aug. 25 review, Downey wrote that while most management issues with the contractor “are on track,” a pending Bath Iron Works “request for equitable adjustment” for reimbursement of some design, construction and support costs “has strained BIW and Navy management relations.”

The Navy also “continues to witness strained relations between BIW and the labor unions in the shipyard,” he wrote.

Ryan, the General Dynamics spokeswoman, said in an e-mail that she wouldn’t comment on such issues.

The new destroyer’s Advanced Gun System from BAE Systems Plc has two 155mm guns capable of firing “precision projectiles” 63 nautical miles (72.5 miles) inland. It’s to carry a crew of 142, down from about 300 on the Navy’s Aegis destroyers and cruisers.

The vessel is larger than any Navy destroyer or cruiser since the nuclear-powered USS Long Beach bought in 1957, according to the Congressional Research Service.
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have you heard about DDG-1002 yet?
General Dynamics Destroyer Reviewed by U.S. for Cancellation
I have heard that certain parties are "weighing," it.

Certain parties would also like to cancel the F-35 and the Ford Class.

I would be surprised if anything comes of it.

The 1st is launched and will soon start sea trials. The 2nd is well alongn in construction and will be launched itself soon.

The 3rd is already under construction.

As I say, we shall see...but I would be surprised if they were able to convince the powers that be in the US Congress to defund it. In the end, at this stage...that's what it will take.
 
I have heard that certain parties are "weighing," it.

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... here's what NavalToday has to say:
US Navy to Cancel Third Zumwalt?
Pentagon is considering the cancellation of the third next-generation stealth destroyer USS Lyndon B. Johnson.

According to a Defense Department briefing document reported by Bloomberg Business the fate of the Zumwalt-class destroyer will be known in the “next few weeks”. Two officials have confirmed that talks about cancellation are in progress yet no decision has been made. Pentagon has set up an independent cost-assessment office which will decide on whether the build of the last of three Zumwalt destroyers, Lyndon B. Johnson (DDG-1002) will be canceled.

Initially, 32 Zumwalt destroyers were supposed to be built. Over the years the number declined to three vessels which are being built at the General Dynamics’ Bath Iron Works shipyard. Even if the build were to be cancelled the question of how much, if at all, would the government save still looms large.

According to Portland Press Herald, U.S. Rep. Chellie Pingree said that cancelling the third Zumwalt would not make much sense, adding that since the ship is already under construction, cancelling it now would be a total waste of taxpayers’ money.

President of Local S6, the production union at Maine’s BIW, Jay Wadleigh said that there had been talk in prior years about the future of the ship which is around 41 percent complete.

Maine Public Broadcasting quoted him as saying:
"As it’s gotten further and further along in the construction cycle, we kind of hoped that we were past those conversations. But it certainly looks like it’s still in play."

These three vessel are part of a $22 billion contract at GD’s BIW shipyard, which employs more than 5,000 workers. The cancellation of the program at this phase would not only affect the workers but could also affect a multitude of businesses that support the shipyard or operate within its supply chain.
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