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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
As I say before they will make a beeline to Teheran like ant
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TEHRAN - An informed source in the Iranian military has said that Russian and Chinese officials have asked for permission to inspect the U.S. spy drone that was recently downed by the Iranian Armed Forces, Nasimonline.ir reported on Wednesday.

On Sunday, an unidentified Iranian military source said that the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic had downed an advanced RQ-170 unmanned U.S. spy plane, which had violated the country’s airspace along the eastern border.

There are unconfirmed reports that Iran may put the drone on public display.

According to the Washington Post, the RQ-170 drone has been used by the CIA for highly sensitive missions into other nations’ airspace, including months of surveillance of the compound in Pakistan in which Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was allegedly hiding before he was killed in an attack by Special Operations forces on May 1, 2011.

On Monday, U.S. military officials said that they are concerned that Tehran may now have an opportunity to acquire information about the classified surveillance drone program, AP reported.

U.S. officials considered conducting a covert mission inside Iran to retrieve or destroy the stealth drone but ultimately concluded such a secret operation wasn’t worth the risk of provoking a more explosive clash with Tehran, a U.S. official said, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.
 

navyreco

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In a recent U.S. Navy and Northrop Grumman (NYSE:NOC) exercise, a Fire Scout unmanned helicopter successfully sent sensor data to the cockpit display of a MH-60 helicopter. The demonstration, which took place Oct. 25 near Patuxent River Naval Air Station, Md., paves the way for improving the speed at which field commanders can make informed decisions during military operations.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I know that Equation, but still If we are going too honor a "Enemy" Ironclad lets not forget the friendly ship that she was built on and the ship that gave her a run for her money. The last Merrimack was a oilier that retired in 1998 the last Monitor was scrapped in 1961 and had 4 battle stars too her name.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I know that Equation, but still If we are going too honor a "Enemy" Ironclad lets not forget the friendly ship that she was built on and the ship that gave her a run for her money. The last Merrimack was a oilier that retired in 1998 the last Monitor was scrapped in 1961 and had 4 battle stars too her name.

With that said, I think the Monitor has a better advantage than said the Merrimack, due to the very low profile and the rotating turret.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
I was talking about honoring the names not comparing the ship classes.

Virginia is no longer an "enemy". Virginia was part of a vital state in the Revolutionary war also, so why not honor her for taking part in that war. Those Confederates or rebels were also Americans whether one accepts it or not.
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
VIP Professional
Guys.. read this about naming ships!...There's something going on right now in congress about the naming of ships..

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The Senate wants the Navy to explain how it selects names for new ships in the wake of controversy over the naming of a ship in memory of labor leader Cesar Chavez.

A little-noticed provision of a defense bill that passed the Senate last week would direct the Navy to submit a report to Congress on its naming of vessels. The provision was sought by Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who told reporters in a conference call last week that in light of recent controversies over ship namings, the Navy should seek "more input and think more carefully about who we’re going to name our Navy vessels after."

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Alpine) complained earlier this year that Navy Secretary Ray Mabus’ naming of a supply ship after Chavez appeared to be "more about making a political statement than upholding the Navy's history and tradition.''

A group of Democratic senators who praised Mabus' decision accused critics of a "disappointing lack of knowledge" of Navy standards and traditions, noting that similar ships have been named for explorers Lewis and Clark, aviator Amelia Earhart, astronaut Alan Shepard and civil rights leader Medgar Evers. Chavez enlisted in the Navy at age 17 and served for two years.

In a statement announcing the name in May, Mabus said: "Cesar Chavez inspired young Americans to do what is right and what is necessary to protect our freedoms and our country. ... The Cesar Chavez will sail hundreds of thousands of miles and will bring support and assistance to thousands upon thousands of people. His example will live on in this great ship."

There also was controversy this year over the naming of a ship after the late Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), a retired Marine and former chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee who drew criticism from other veterans for accusing a squad of Marines in 2006 of killing Iraqi civilians "in cold blood."

The Navy secretary decides on names for new ships. According to the Naval Historical Center:

The procedures and practices involved in Navy ship naming are as much, if not more, products of evolution and tradition than of legislation. ... The secretary can rely on many sources to help him reach his decisions. Each year, the Naval Historical Center compiles primary and alternate ship name recommendations and forwards these to the Chief of Naval Operations by way of the chain of command. These recommendations are the result of research into the history of the Navy and by suggestions submitted by service members, Navy veterans, and the public.

Congress also makes recommendations. In fact, Hunter included in the House version of this year’s defense bill a measure that "strongly encourages" the Navy secretary to name the next available ship after Marine Sgt. Rafael Peralta, who was killed in the battle for Fallouja, Iraq, in 2004 and nominated for the Medal of Honor.

Both the House and Senate versions of the defense legislation, which will set budget and policy for the Pentagon for the 2012 fiscal year, face White House veto threats over other provisions, including measures dealing with detainees.

But if House-Senate negotiators can reach a compromise, there is a good chance that the ship-naming language will make it into a final bill.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Thanks for the interesting article Popeye. IMO the ships naming should stick to Navy Secretary and the folks at Naval Historical Center. The last thing I want to see is names of ships will be named according to what the press and media wants.
 

delft

Brigadier
delft, if the Somila's hate the US so much why then do so many Solmila's immigrate to the US?

The short answer is that people don't like to be bombed. They are in that respect safer in the US than in their own country. And of course most Somalis don't emigrate to the US. But people are as complex states. When in the early nineties the US was hunting the Somali warlord Aideed his son was a captain in the US Marines. When dad died a few years later son left the Marines and took his fathers position as warlord. Presumably ( I'm not very current in Somali warlords ) he is now sponsored by the US to fight Al-Shabab.
The US have an inexplicable aversion to Muslim political organizations while they have ample happy experience withe the Christian political parties they sponsored in Europa after the Second World War. The one exception to this aversion to Muslim political organisation was in Iraq where this helped destroy the mostly secular political culture that existed.
 
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