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Jeff Head

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I think a distinction needs to be made between the bailout and the stimulus. The bailout for the banks was a crime against capitalism. Bad businesses should fail, if you keep bailing them out without making them accountable, that would be a perverse kind of socialism for the rich. The stimulus on the other hand, most economist agree stopped the US from slipping into double digit unemployment.
The ones making those claims are mostly connected to the ones who did it. Others take the opposite view...that it made things worse. Certainly the claim was that it would keep unemployment below 8% and it did no such thing...it got worse.

What we are finding out is that a lot of the stimulus was (like the bailouts) much more about paybacks and cronyism. Solyndra, SunPower, Light Squared, etc., etc. the list goes in. Billions and billions funneled into very risky or failing concerns where a whole lot of political support ran those companies...much of the rest making "government" jobs that do not produce anything.

But, both sides of this will be argued and it becomes political so it is best to leave it at that.

Back on topic, the US Army may soon get a small, individual soldier, killer UAV called the switchblade:

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CardSharp

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The ones making those claims are mostly connected to the ones who did it. Others take the opposite view...that it made things worse. Certainly the claim was that it would keep unemployment below 8% and it did no such thing...it got worse.

What we are finding out is that a lot of the stimulus was (like the bailouts) much more about paybacks and cronyism. Solyndra, SunPower, Light Squared, etc., etc. the list goes in. Billions and billions funneled into very risky or failing concerns where a whole lot of political support ran those companies...much of the rest making "government" jobs that do not produce anything.

Yeah plenty of economists say that too ie it was badly designed and rife with kick backs, but that's a function of putting anything spending through congress. Everyone wants their pork.
 

Schumacher

Senior Member
Grounded again. This is amazing, not so much the oxygen problem is not fixed but that they sent their men up there despite not having a solution to this potentially fatal problem.
What could be going through the minds of the F22 pilots still being forced to fly ?

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F-22 Raptors at Virginia Base Grounded After Pilot Loses Oxygen
October 21, 2011|By Chris Klint | KTUU.com

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — All F-22 Raptors at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia were grounded Friday, after a pilot reported losing oxygen in mid-flight. The new grounding comes a month after the Air Force lifted a four-month stand-down order for the entire Raptor fleet.

According to Wired.com defense blog Danger Room, the Air Force issued a statement on the incident Friday embracing the authority of individual Raptor units to ground their aircraft over oxygen-system problems, which prompted the earlier fleetwide order.........................
 

bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Thanks for posting Shumacher.. I hope they fix this lemon of an aircraft. GAO or some independent oversight agency look into this mess that has become the F-22.
 

delft

Brigadier
If the problem is too difficult to solve it might be better to end the use of these aircraft permanently.
 

delft

Brigadier
Such things have been done before. Why throw good money after bad money?
I'm not convinced it should be done. I just think it shouldn't be unthinkable.
 

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Fortunately the USN has 60 Aegis equipped Arliegh Burke DDGs..and may biuld 15 more..well maybe!

Twelve ships face axe in US budget cuts
By Sam LaGrone
10/24/2011

The US Navy is planning to retire nine Ticonderoga-class cruisers and three Whidbey Island-class dock landing ships (LSDs) in Fiscal Years 2013 (FY13) and 2014 as austerity measures hit the Department of Defense (DoD).

In an internal email obtained by Jane's , navy budget planners have listed the ships that are earmarked for decommissioning as the Pentagon seeks to reduce its spending by USD450 billion during the next 10 years.

Navy spokesperson Lieutenant Courtney Hillson told Jane's that the service would not comment on any budget-related fleet changes before the DoD's spending plans are released in early 2012.

The cruisers slated for decommissioning in FY13 are USS Normandy (CG 60), USS Anzio (CG 68), USS Vicksburg (CG 69) and USS Cape St George (CG 71), with USS Princeton (CG 59), USS Cowpens (CG 63), USS Gettysburg (CG 64), USS Chosin (CG 65) and USS Hue City (CG 66) following in FY14. The nine combatants entered service between 1989 and 1993.

The amphibious platforms scheduled for decommissioning were identified as USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41), USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and USS Tortuga (LSD 46). The trio entered service between 1985 and 1990.
 

Jeff Head

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Fortunately the USN has 60 Aegis equipped Arliegh Burke DDGs..and may biuld 15 more..well maybe!
The current DDG-51 Flight IIA version is supposed to remain in production from FY 2010-2015, buying 2 more Flight IIA ships in 2011 and then another 6 from FY 2011-2015. That's eight more of the Flight IIA vessels.

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Then, they are supposed to start on the Flight III vessels in 2016 which at this point appear to be similar to the S. Korean Se Jong class (KDX III). There is talk of including the 155mm AGS forward on the Flight III vessels and a slightly scaled down version of the dual band AMDR, both from the Zumwalt.

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