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TerraN_EmpirE

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Jura said:
Russians say
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that
January 2017
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an F-16 was dogfighting with a Flanker in Nevada this November:
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(Russians speculate it would be either of originally Ukrainian Flankers serial# 96310408027 or 96310418210 or 36911027717)
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there has been speculation that the USAF has secretly been operating a number of Flankers for a couple decades. After the offical decativation of the 4477th through out the 1990's there were sightings of Russian origin fighters in and around the Groom lake Facility Including SU22, and SU27. It's been rumored that for training of US Aggressor squadrons a number of Mig 29 and SU27's have been operated out of the Magic Box ( Groom lake)... Probably the most boring rumors about A51.
 
Lethe

Lethe

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
The USN operates globally. That 355 ship fleet would be broken up across the world oceans the PRC lacks any need for that much global reach unless like 250 are amphibious landing boats.
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The point is that pieces of paper are cheap.

In any case, given that Chinese force level requirements are to a significant degree determined by American force levels and capabilities, it isn't that much of a stretch. Will leave it there as I don't want to drag the thread off topic.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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Lethe my point is that the US is unique by geography and political and economic power. These mean that the USN operates globally. IE it's not one Navy it's multiple Navies all under a single command structure. Any of the USN fleets would on there own be the equivalent of a regional naval power. But by this unique position a nation with shores into the Atlantic and Pacific, a powerful economy that even when not doing well is still a Titan compared to other nations in similar geographic location and political status as the world's go to enforcer of International standing the USN operates across every ocean and to do so needs to maintain a higher number of ships. A regional power like China by contrast can locally Serge a stronger fleet but by position lack of access to ports and regional issues of status cannot achieve the same level of reach ergo if the local USN is 40 ships strong the a local power could build and operate 50 or more with little issue although the USN may Serge in an emergency they can only Serge by depealting other areas of operations creating weaknesses that can be exploited. IE the pivot to Asia weakend Middle east and European forces.
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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2016 Budgets billions $
China more difficult ofc... officialy about 150 clearly I do not believe possible 220 and some say also up to about 300.
For me about 200, 215as SIPRI say seems good.
NB : Budget for USA with External operations about 90 bill.
France 32.5 bill €

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US Army ramp up in Europe for 2017, NATO also

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3rd ABCT from 4th Infantry Division and 10th CAB will arrive in early 2017, deploying to Europe with their own Equipment.

CAB of 10th Mtn Div
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48 AH-64D + 12 RQ-7B + 53 UH-60 + 12 CH-47 in 4 bat do 2700 pers.

For 9 months replaced after but others units use same materials

In addition Equipment for an other Armored Brigade stored in Netherlands
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And 4 Bat of 1000 personnals deployed in Eastern Europe

Estonia: a British battalion (The Rifle) with French contributions (2nd RIMa of Le Mans, as announced by the Minister of Defense two weeks ago) and Danish,
Latvia: a Canadian battalion with Italian, Albanian, Polish and Slovenian contributions,
Lithuania: a German battalion (122nd Panzergrenadierbataillon), with contributions from Netherlands, Norwegian (200 men), Belgian (a transport company), Croatian, French (in 2018) and Luxemburgish,
Poland: an American battalion with British contributions (150 trainers) and Romanian.
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FORBIN said:
2016 Budgets billions $
China more difficult ofc... officialy about 150 clearly I do not believe possible 220 and some say also up to about 300.
For me about 200, 215as SIPRI say seems good.
NB : Budget for USA with External operations about 90 bill.
France 32.5 bill €

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I believe a Chinese budget of 191 billion is probably buying them what it would take 450-500 billion in the US to buy.
 
Air Force Brat

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TerraN_EmpirE said:
Lethe my point is that the US is unique by geography and political and economic power. These mean that the USN operates globally. IE it's not one Navy it's multiple Navies all under a single command structure. Any of the USN fleets would on there own be the equivalent of a regional naval power. But by this unique position a nation with shores into the Atlantic and Pacific, a powerful economy that even when not doing well is still a Titan compared to other nations in similar geographic location and political status as the world's go to enforcer of International standing the USN operates across every ocean and to do so needs to maintain a higher number of ships. A regional power like China by contrast can locally Serge a stronger fleet but by position lack of access to ports and regional issues of status cannot achieve the same level of reach ergo if the local USN is 40 ships strong the a local power could build and operate 50 or more with little issue although the USN may Serge in an emergency they can only Serge by depealting other areas of operations creating weaknesses that can be exploited. IE the pivot to Asia weakend Middle east and European forces.
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CNO Richardson just announced the USN sailors are going to go back to being called by their ratings, Navy Sec Mabus took away their rates in order to make job titles more "gender neutral", stoopid politically correct KRAP!

They will be officially restored at 08:00 12/21/16

I am SO SICK of this PC KRAP! Sailors work hard for those ratings, guys and girls alike were P O ed. they were ticked and rightly so, most sailors had been ignoring those orders anyway, of course the brass had to play by the rules, but the sailors said
"NO WAY"! CNO Richardson acknowledged they had made a mistake!
 
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