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Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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MwRYum

MwRYum

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We don't know the whole truth yet, but the fact of the matter is that the American sailors were apprehended after their boats were adrift into Iranian waters for whatever reasons. They were taken into Iranian custody for awhile and than released along with US sailors boats that they came from. Adversary navy's or not they did treated them pretty good and that's saying a lot consider the contentious political history between these two nations. We can be thankful nothing worse could have happen. Yeah our pride may be hurt but...so what, the sailors lives were safe and back home to the US side.
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The Iranians could've done what they usually did - make a much bigger fuss, parade the crews and the boats on the streets of Tehran, more camera footage showcasing everything from the MGs to the toothbrush in the sailors' backpacks, and dragged this business on with more brinkmanship, after all it was the Revolutionary Guard who caught the prize catch, those hardliners - but instead, very mild presentations on state TV newsreel, both sides buys into the technical glitch storyline (the details are irrelevant, as stuff like that only set the tone, which is what matters), a few sorry here and there, and the Riverine boats crews are allowed to leave - with their boats! This is so uncharacteristic of the Iranians as typically they'd keep the boats as trophies, a testament to their victories against the "Big Satan"...

In short, this time round both Washington and Tehran are equally keen to get this over and out of the news headlines, thus this incident was over in less than 48 hours...which could be a record when comes to US-Iran relationships.

Could it be that there's a bigger picture at play now, that neither side wants this to become an unexpected monkey wrench?
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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as to the incident with the two boats, let me tell you this:
  • recently I've read about US Navy careers wrecked by what appeared to me as insignificant in comparison with getting caught by Iranians;
  • now I saw in Internet coupla speculations about what's happened, but I wouldn't post about it until the release of something very official
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I have a feeling that the Iranians wanted to keep this one from getting to big for Obama, If it stretched out The Admin could have been forced by congress to apply sanctions. Right now they are happy to thumb there nose in some areas but can only do so up to a set level. Marching American Sailors down the streets to the jeers of Tehran with guns to there heads could backfire and set the Admin into a position to crackdown. They are happy to Humiliate but have bigger ambitions that cannot be derailed by short propaganda pageants that enrage.
Tehran can thumb it's nose but it's not ready to jab in the eye not for something so small.
 
Brumby

Brumby

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Lawmaker to Pentagon: Did Iran Seizure of US Navy Boat Net Classified Tech?

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The Iranians reportedly seized the GPS equipment on the riverine command boats, a 49-foot-long jet-propelled attack craft that can speed up to 43 knots and that boasts sensitive communications gear for use as a command vessel. The boats were at least equipped with a FLIR infrared system when the Navy
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the platform.

A US defense official, speaking on background, said there was no indication of sensitive equipment on the two craft.
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TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

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MwRYum said:
3. Sailors wearing AOR2 pattern not the standard navy pattern uniforms...ok, riverine boats are typically used by spec ops and sailors supporting spec ops wears AOR2, no secret here.
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Correction.
AOR2 is a Woodland type pattern that is used for the USN's Type III Naval Work Uniform and is general issue uniform for ground or Brown water Navy personnel. All US Navy sailors have access to it. and are authorized for wear. NWU type I is the blue digital pattern uniform intended for sea wear on Blue water navy ships and is mostly meant to just hide stains.
NWU Type II is a desert pattern issued to USN Navy spec war and is in AOR1 pattern It is authorized only for Specwar. This came about because the Marines objected to the Navy wearing a pattern close to there beloved MARPAT, So foolishly The navy chose to specialize NWU type II and had to substitute 3 color desert for wear in Desert areas. ( personally I think this is Bull. Service uniforms are fine for all the fancy wants but as a combat or work uniform It seems rather petty to try and Trademark patterns by service. Issue one family of patterns that works. )
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The Riverines captured were wearing Type III NWU not the more elusive Type II.

Now I have been thinking about this why both boats.
It seems to me that In this case the two boats were partnered. Now if one experienced trouble logically the other boat's crew would stay with the troubled boat. this would allow rescue in the case of sinking Defence in the case of attack and general support. It's likely that the senior officer of the two on seeing the Iranians made the call that rather then start a fight they would both share the same fate.
Word is the Iranians released them with there boats. meaning at best the Iranians could have gotten a cursory inspection of GPS and FLIR gear but not a full reverse engineering.
 
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