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Next-Generation Fighter, Directed Energy Weapons May Converge
Limited F-22, F-35 firepower magazine drives USAF investment plans
Aug 5, 2014Amy Butler | Aviation Week & Space Technology
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Eyes on the Horizon

The high cost of the F-22 was driven by stealthy features, including a small weapons bay. Credit: U.S. Air Force

Eyeing emerging threats amid a constrained budget environment, and consumed by the Lockheed Martin F-35’s high cost, the U.S. Air Force is already studying what the “sixth-generation” of air dominance capability for the service should be.

Air Combat Command Chief Gen. Mike Hostage says he is agnostic on whether the next generation of Air Force combat capability should be manned, unmanned or even a fighter. “It isn’t necessarily another single-seat fighter,” he said July 29 at a breakfast in Washington. “If it is the enter button on the keyboard that makes all the adversaries fall to the ground, I’m okay with that.”

Because of the “torturous” nature of the acquisition process, “we are already behind the line to get something on the ramp,” he said. “I think it is existential that we build the future fleet.” Hostage says he is willing to accept risk in the interim by shifting money from upgrades to existing fighters to provide seed money for the so-called sixth-generation system. This includes scrapping plans for the Combat Avionics Programmed Extension Suite and structural work for the F-16s expected to remain in the fleet despite downsizing.

This “sixth-generation” system is so dubbed as a follow-on to the “fifth-generation” of stealth, speed and avionics/sensor fusion offered by the F-22 and F-35. It will have to operate with the forthcoming Long-Range Strike Bomber; the Air Force recently issued a request for proposals for 80-100 stealthy aircraft, according to Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Welsh. This kicks off a long-awaited competition between a Boeing/Lockheed Martin team and Northrop Grumman, with a goal of a unit price at or under $550 million.

Still, the all fifth-generation fleet once envisioned by the Air Force remains elusive. Flight restrictions on the F-35 are “near-term,” and Hostage does not think the root cause of the excessive friction in the third stage integrally bladed rotor in the low-pressure turbine that led to a June 23 F-35A F135 engine fire will jeopardize achieving the Air Force’s initial operational capability for the single-engine stealthy jet, planned by August 2016.

The fire prompted a fleet-wide grounding for three weeks, followed by a limited flight envelope for all three variants of the aircraft. For two weeks they have been flying only in a limited envelope, hampering progress in flight testing, including the weapons releases required for the U.S. Marine Corps to declare initial operational capability in one year with the F-35B. Operational aircraft are limited to 0.9 Mach and -1 to 3g under normal acceleration. Flight-test jets are approved for a slightly more rigorous 1.6 Mach and -1 to 3.2g under recently relaxed guidelines.

Hostage acknowledges that the “magazine” for today’s fifth-generation fighters-—the F-22 and, eventually, the F-35—is shallow. Each can carry only a maximum of eight ground-attack Small-Diameter Bombs. Physics limits magazine options for these aircraft, as the stealthy design requires small internal weapons bays.

Hostage hinted, however, that the Pentagon is funding classified efforts to maximize firepower. At one point, the service pursued the so-called Joint Dual-Role Air Dominance Missile (JDRADM), meant to combine the air-to-air capabilities of the Amraam with the radar-killing air-to-ground attack capabilities of the HARM missile into one airframe. That project—later dubbed the Next-Generation Missile—fizzled; some sources suggest research may be continuing under a classified program.

And it is likely the service will pursue directed-energy options for the sixth-generation system. “Amazing developments in the [directed energy] arena” have been made and this technology “holds great promise,” Hostage said. He did not provide details on programmatics and added that it was not clear yet whether directed-energy capabilities would be mature enough to deploy on the sixth-generation system.

Directed energy is one of five areas highlighted by the Air Force as investment items for the future fleet; also included were unmanned aerial vehicles, nanotechnology, hypersonics and automation. These are included in a new paper, “America’s Air Force: A Call to the Future,” which outlines a strategic framework against which the service plans to budget for decades to come.
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Actually TerraN, I think he is more concerned with air to air, but I could have misread that, as its been a few days since I read this. I would remind all that the F-22 was supposed to be produced in some number, with 700 being the initial plan, just as the F-35 is to number over 2000 in US service. 700 X 8 would be 5600 bad guys down, which would have taken care of any possible threat. While it remains popular to criticize the F-22, and equally popular to criticize the F-35, the real problem is the job killing programs of this present crowd, starting with the Un-Affordable Health Care Act, which has already cut Medi-Care disbursments and around 700 billion to be rerouted to the AHCA, and taken away from Medicare. Of course Sequestration, and cutting funding has created a crisis in the US military, one that is likely to be pernicious and long lasting. Sadly any high school student could have done the math on this, like everything else done by this crew it is more social engineering, I hate to even suggest that punishing the military as well as conservatives, is a side benefit for this crew, but it certainly appears that may bee the case.

In any respect, its foolish to look for pie in the sky in any six gen platform at the present, IMHO I believe we better recapitalize our military and build those fifth gens that will no doubt make all the difference, and I respectfully disagree with General Hostage and his "avante guarde" comments, and if the truth be told, it is quite likely that his comments are both tongue in cheek, and sarcastic, as there is little doubt the enter button is NOT going to provide top-cover for his F-35s. While I greatly respect Mike Hostage, I would have preferred a more cogent and direct path for the short term, we need wisdom, not witticisms.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Brat, I was not the Author of the Article. I also refrained from comment on it. However now I will.

I do not believe that pure drones formations will be the method of combat for the United States Air Force or Navy or Marines for the foreseeable future, It would not be politically or militarily viable. In the Military arena of that statement I point to ECM and Advances in information warfare. In the political its just not a move any of the baby kissing, lollipop stealing would be elected officials are going to feel comfortable dealing with. There will I feel still be a man in the loop.
Now as to sixth generation fighters? They are coming but what they are may not be what you think. I suspect that the Sixth generation fighter will be far closer to a fifth generation.
The new features I see are Advent engines reducing fuel cost and upping performance,
advanced sensors far more sensitive and integrated for situation awareness to hunt other fifth and sixth generation platforms.
Directed energy weapons perhaps ar first for little more then defense via Laser hard kill point defense then attack air to air and air to ground.
Advanced stealth, not just Radar but IR and maybe Visual stealth the proverbial cloaking device. A stealth skin over the bird with color shifting capacity
. That's my sixth Gen Brat, and the thing is that that my vision of one is not only as valid as Hostages as at this point no one has really set a strict sixth generation definition, but mine also would allow F35D, F35E, F35F and F22C as well as Pak Fa and J20/J31 upgrades. And you know what Brat the technology is almost ready. Advent Engines were tested on YF23.F35's sensors are just at the start and advances in technology are making leaps and bounds. Adaptive optics are shrinking lasers. IR stealth is being developed by any number of makers and Visual stealth is set to make a breakthrough. By 2030 these should be available. But Brat it took 20 years to get F35 to where she is today it took Twenty years to get raptor in production even if the orders were short changed. So if we really want to keep the cutting edge now and in the future we need to start 6th Gen now not twenty years from now. As if we leave it till then then it will be J60 or Pak Fa2
 
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TE, I was glad to read this:

... I suspect that the Sixth generation fighter will be far closer to a fifth generation.
...

because some time ago I described characteristics of the 5th generation aircraft to guys in the pub, and then I mentioned there'll be the 6th generation, so I was asked to give characteristics for the 6th, too, and once I did (wasn't much LOL), one guy said (not an exact quote, of course): "I think this is what's already in the 5th generation."
 

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U.S. Navy deploys its new Airborne Laser Mine Detection System (ALMDS) for the first time
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The U.S. Navy has forward deployed the Airborne Laser Mine Detection System (ALMDS) to the 5th Fleet area of responsibility (AOR). ALMDS is a sensor system designed to detect, classify and localize floating and near-surface moored mines. Operated from the MH-60S helicopter, ALMDS provides rapid wide-area reconnaissance and assessment of mine threats in littoral zones, confined straits, and choke points.

Sailors from Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 26, Detachment 2, Laser Hawks, began the operational testing and demonstration of ALMDS in 5th Fleet on the system's maiden deployment August 4.

"The U.S. Fifth Fleet is focused on reducing the threat posed by sea-based mines in the region should that be necessary and the presence of ALMDS here in the theater adds to our capacity to do just that," said Vice Adm. John W. Miller, commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, U.S. 5th Fleet, Combined Maritime Forces. "The international community has a critical shared interest in the free flow of commerce in this region. ALMDS, along with the many other counter-mine systems we operate in the Fifth Fleet allows the Navy to keep the sea lanes open."

"It's a laser-driven system that works like radar," said Lt. Cmdr. Theodore Lemerande, officer in charge of Laser Hawks. "It beams a laser down into the water and picks up reflections from anything it bounces off of. The system then registers the returned information and uses that data to produce a video image in order for technicians on the ground to determine what the object is."
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