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ismellcopium

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I would guess it would based on an existing hull? The San Antonio class would be my guess if that is the case. Ingalls had a model of a modified San Antonio with SPY-6, 288 VLS and a rail-gun way back in 2013.

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If you're paying attention you'd notice that cost disease/R&D decay has increasingly reduced the US MIC to converting & repurposing rather than properly developing new systems everywhere, and the examples are growing exponentially. I expect there to be increasingly funnier instances to come.
 

Zichan

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If this actually transpires, these are looking like the Ticonderoga replacements. 20-25 ships in total.

Curious about that railgun: I thought the USN abandoned the project. Will they license build the Japanese guns?

Another detail not mentioned yet: I don’t see any smoke stacks. So these things will be nuclear!?

Oh, and it will still come with SPG-62s. The USN really does not want to abandon SARH. Three illuminators, like Burkes.
 

Lethe

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Those AN/SPG-62 illuminators (first deployed aboard USS Ticonderoga in 1983) ain't ever gonna die. Even Trump can only work so many miracles.

I would guess it would based on an existing hull? The San Antonio class would be my guess if that is the case. Ingalls had a model of a modified San Antonio with SPY-6, 288 VLS and a rail-gun way back in 2013.

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That San Antonio pitch was an econobox take on the essential capabilities intended to be delivered by CG(X) following the latter's cancellation. It isn't nearly fancy enough for DJT and his Golden Fleet.

How does the US expect to have this ready by 2030?? Especially considering their recent track record?

Procurement in 2030 implies service entry in late 2030s at the earliest. Obviously there's a good chance that it will be cancelled prior to even that notional procurement date.
 
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Temstar

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- Three 64-cell Mark 41 VLS banks
- One CPS hypersonic launch bank
- Two 21-cell RAM launchers
- Two high power lasers
- Four SEWIP Block III modules
- One railgun
- Two Mark 45 guns
- Outsized SPY-6 arrays

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Is that a regular mast stacked on top of an integrated mast?
If you get rid of the railgun and roughly cut the size of that ship in half with half of everything it's supposed to have, you'll get sort of an American 055, which might not be an entirely bad idea. Making it twice as big and giving it railgun is really the bit that screams "designed by high school student".

It would be interesting to hear if Guancha guys talk about it tonight. There should be enough material both historic (Kirov class and its design history) and contemporary (Ma Weiming's "all energy warship" design, this) to have an episode on post WW2 battleship sized capital ship.
 

Zichan

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USNI News has a lot more details:
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Surface Launch Cruise Missile-Nuclear (SLCM-N)
12 cells CPS
128 cells Mk 41 VLS
1 × 32MJ Railgun with HVP
2 × 5" Gun with HVP
2 x 300kW or 2 x 600kW lasers
2 × RAM Launchers
4 × 30mm Guns
4 x ODIN Lasers
2 x Counter UxS Systems

37 RMA SPY-6
Crew: 650-850
30+ knots top speed
Gas turbine & diesel IEPS propulsion

These ships replace the DDG(X).
Construction to start in the early 2030s. Estimated cost per ship: 10-15 billion USD.
 
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Atomicfrog

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"The U.S. Navy has confirmed to TWZ that the armament package for its first “flight” of its
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will not include a built-in Vertical Launch System (VLS). There had been widespread questions about whether the ships would include a VLS array
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with no such feature readily apparent."


Confirmed.
Anyway they are just nearly able to fill their existing VLS with their missiles production, adding more would be an headache.
 
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