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Lethe

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Continuing to poke around trends in Virginia-class submarine production.

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One interesting thing to note is that deliveries began to depart from contract dates before the Columbia-class SSBN program entered construction phase from 2020: SSNs 791-793 commenced construction 2013-2014 and were delivered late 2019 to early 2022. The delays beginning at that point are therefore more closely associated with the shift beginning in FY 2011 to procuring two SSNs per year, up from one per year in the preceding decade, and perhaps also the transition to Block IV (SSNs 792-801) construction. The first VPM boat, SSN-803, was awarded Dec 2019, commenced construction March 2020, was contracted to be delivered April 2026 and is currently estimated to be delivered July 2029.

USN's
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shows SSN inventory numbers floating between the high 40s to mid-50s out to 2040. This range aligns with that identified by the 1993
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as suitable for an era in which the United States faced no peer competitors: 45-55 SSNs. The
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subsequently refined that inventory target to 50 SSNs. The notion that inventory levels identified in the "unipolar moment" of the 1990s remain adequate in the 2030s is questionable at best, particularly given that the mission set assigned to SSNs has actually increased in the 21st century, manifesting most clearly in Virginia Blocks V/VI incorporating VPM modules from SSN-803 onwards. USN's
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increased the SSN inventory objective to 66 and it is noteworthy that, proportionally, that was the largest inventory change to emerge from that assessment relative to prior assessments, but the aforementioned 2024 shipbuilding plan shows that SSN inventory numbers will only begin to approach those levels from the early 2040s.

Thank you for sharing the new War Nerd episode featuring Seth Harp! Took me a couple of days to get through all 104 minutes, but glad to have tuned in: definitely added to my reading of his body of work.

While I applaud Seth's empathy as a man, a veteran and an author, he really needs to take the claims of his subjects' ex-gfs with more salt.

Direct links just in case you want more from Seth Harp:

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In the latter episode he shares some of his own experiences in Iraq.
 
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SlothmanAllen

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Continuing to poke around trends in Virginia-class submarine production.

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Thanks for posting this. Really interesting. I wonder if it was a combination of things? As the ships go along and change blocks they get larger, but I cannot imagine it would contribute that much to a delay. I wonder if it is a combo of 2011 Budget Control Act (BCA - sequestration) and the COVID-19 Pandemic? The issues seem to start with SSN 791 which is around the time of the BCA taking full effect (it did not end until 2021). You then transition directly into the COVID pandemic. The 10 years of sequestration must have hurt the industry significantly.

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but the US commissioned six nuclear submarines in 1981 (five Los Angeles and one Ohio class). They maintained about three-four ships per year after that between the Los Angeles and Ohio class. Launches were probably consistently around five or so ships per year.

EDIT: They did launch three Virginia class in 2024. I not sure when the commissioning will happen, but that is still an impressive number.
 
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Lethe

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Thanks for posting this. Really interesting. I wonder if it was a combination of things? As the ships go along and change blocks they get larger, but I cannot imagine it would contribute that much to a delay. I wonder if it is a combo of 2011 Budget Control Act (BCA - sequestration) and the COVID-19 Pandemic? The issues seem to start with SSN 791 which is around the time of the BCA taking full effect (it did not end until 2021). You then transition directly into the COVID pandemic. The 10 years of sequestration must have hurt the industry significantly.

I haven't looked into the BCA/sequestration side of things, but it's worth keeping in mind when the contracted delivery dates come from, something that is captured on my previous chart. The Block IV contract dates for (SSNs 792-801) are those set by the April 2014 contract award, as reflected in the
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, published February 2015. That's not to say that sequestration wasn't wreaking havoc behind the scenes, only that it wasn't an entirely unknown factor at the time the contracts were being negotiated. For Block V the contract award came December 2019 and those dates are available in the
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published February 2020. I haven't looked into how COVID affected the industrial base, but the contract coming immediately pre-COVID certainly allows the possibility that it was a significant factor in the slippage that has occurred since.

Here's a construction time chart that I prepared earlier:

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The early VPM boats (803-) with their significantly greater dispacement are indeed projected to have the longest construction times, but the difference is not dramatic.

Per the aforementioned Defense Budget Estimates, construction start dates reflect "when Electric Boat starts construction of Section 7 Hull Cylinder (KE70021)."

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but the US commissioned six nuclear submarines in 1981 (five Los Angeles and one Ohio class). They maintained about three-four ships per year after that between the Los Angeles and Ohio class. Launches were probably consistently around five or so ships per year.

Yes I think I will have more to write about the Cold War inventory at some point...
 
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gelgoog

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Those US sub construction numbers with two shipyards are just pathetic. 1.5 subs a year on average. The Russians with a single shipyard are putting one SSGN and one SSBN into the water each year.

And that is not the biggest threat to the US Navy. The PLAN can build like twice that. Three SSGNs a year.

Allegedly workers were laid off in the US during COVID but the slippage had started before then.

That is not to say that the US does not still enjoy an advantage in SSNs, they do, but the long term trends don't look good.
 
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