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AlexYe

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and in the video the presenter hints that it was because they were providing defective wields which is really troubling when you think about it.
Yep yep, Which means they hired folk that didnt have the skill or could meet the requirements/quality.
Big skill/trade-craft gap, either not enough people to fill these roles satisfactorily or those folk are already employed at other places with better pay.
 

Michaelsinodef

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and in the video the presenter hints that it was because they were providing defective wields which is really troubling when you think about it.
Not surprising.

Default assumption should be that the weapon industry is shit (low quality due to low pay, skilled workers leaving, small pool of manufacturing workers, low quantity resulting in no new process/factory upgrades, drug pooblems and much more.).

Especially the ship building industry.
 

SlothmanAllen

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Unfortunately it looks like this tweet was deleted?

In other news, Aviation Week has a (paywalled) article regarding a Navy strike aircraft that seems to be moving from the classified to unclassified realm. I'd be really interested to see what they speculate this aircraft might be (manned or unmanned), but I guess we will have to wait for another source to report on it.

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Secrecy over military aircraft sometimes is more complicated than a straightforward dividing line between the labels of “black” and “white”—or if you like, “classified” and “unclassified.” Some U.S. military aircraft occupy a boundless gray area of partial disclosure. Call it “semi-classified.” The...
 

AlexYe

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Unfortunately it looks like this tweet was deleted?

In other news, Aviation Week has a (paywalled) article regarding a Navy strike aircraft that seems to be moving from the classified to unclassified realm. I'd be really interested to see what they speculate this aircraft might be (manned or unmanned), but I guess we will have to wait for another source to report on it.

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Unreal, US military account got cyberbullied because sooooo many people were making fun of it on twitter.
It was a video showing like $20K drone throwing a grenade at targets.
The video
 

supersnoop

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Unreal, US military account got cyberbullied because sooooo many people were making fun of it on twitter.
It was a video showing like $20K drone throwing a grenade at targets.
The video
Well, this is far predating even Ukraine, ISIS was widely credited as one of the early weaponizers of commercial drones, dropping mortars and grenades from the dearly departed DJI Phantom (2015 MSRP ~$1000)
Even the US army trained for this
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The difference now is that drones are smaller and faster, and in the US Army’s case the Skydio X10 is like $20,000.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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The cost point of a drone used in Ukraine would actually be higher if you considered all the other aspects involved. Not a $500 probably a few grand.
The Ukrainians and Russians are able to get them cheap as they are building them themselves from kits in garages. With volunteers and service personnel often the hardware is donated.
Yet both Ukraine and Russia have been deploying EW systems. So a full off the shelf camera drone isn’t going to cut it anymore and hasn’t for years now. As the datalink is going to have to be replaced by either a few KM of fiber optic cable or a secured datalink system driving the price up. GPS or the GPS alternative has to be disconnected or replaced by a hardened one. Farther to use that command system the whole OS software has to be replaced. The stock OS has vulnerabilities and isn’t going to work well with a tether or secure system. It’s also not like they were intended in commercial applications for dropping bombs or self destruct. Then you have the hardware modifications. The X10 drone shown in the configuration of the tweet is clearly is not intended to be mass produced for such. It’s a demonstration piece. The effects it has are limited. A hand grenade can kill a tank crew only if the tank is operating unbuttoned. That’s something that everyone has known for decades that’s why the Israelis have been pushed Iron vision for a decade now.
A grenade can kill infantry sure but so can artillery or a bayonet. Hell these drones are if anything retreating something from World war 1. When pilots in cheap low flying biplanes dropped grenades on infantry.
 

mack8

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So if the MIC shipbuilding industry is so crap and quality low, should we expect other domains such as aviation build quality to be equally crap? Didn't they put wrong rivets on a bunch of new planes recently, i can't recall now if F-35 or F-15? Not to mention things like the ongoing Boeing scandal whose airliners keep falling from the sky and killing innocent people due to low quality?
 

Michaelsinodef

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So if the MIC shipbuilding industry is so crap and quality low, should we expect other domains such as aviation build quality to be equally crap? Didn't they put wrong rivets on a bunch of new planes recently, i can't recall now if F-35 or F-15? Not to mention things like the ongoing Boeing scandal whose airliners keep falling from the sky and killing innocent people due to low quality?
Yes.

Anyone not believing that industry is in a very sorry state in US has not been paying attention the last 10 years.
 
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