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bebops

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What is China's answer to the replicator or swarm of sea and air drone?

Are they leading the AI swarm drone field?

If you have a swarm of drone, why need destroyer or cruisers. Just build and launch hundreds at a time.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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What is China's answer to the replicator or swarm of sea and air drone?

Are they leading the AI swarm drone field?

If you have a swarm of drone, why need destroyer or cruisers. Just build and launch hundreds at a time.

Because you need the control of the seas.

Given how USVs do not have the necessary power generation and endurance capabilities required to operate and maintain radar and sensor systems that are comparable, if not equivalent to those on CGs and DDGs on the high seas - Large surface combatants that are in the mid-to-high 1000s of tons are still very much irreplaceable in the naval warfare of the foreseeable future.

Besides, there are different classes of USVs that are more suited for different roles. For instance, small-sized ones for reconnaissance and forward/outer-ring picket duty, mid-sized ones for proper AAW, ASuW and ASW support plus communication relay, while big-sized ones will become "wingman ships" for manned surface combatants while acting as mini-arsenal ships - And perhaps MALE/HALE UAV carriers as well.

Of course, the above classification can be quite simplistic, but the general idea still stands.

Furthermore, as USV grows bigger in dimension and displacement, increasing complexity meant that larger USVs will most likely be minimally-manned (or at most, optionally-manned) instead of fully unmanned.

Last but not least, there is also always the concern with enemy EW efforts at disrupting, jamming and spoofing allied communication networks for both manned-&-unmanned and unmanned-&-unmanned units. And with fully autonomous AI capabilities for USVs still a long way off, man-in-the-loop is still very much a must today and into the foreseeable future.
 
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HighGround

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4. Development of personnel and professional skills in conducting OSINT of a new generation.

Lmao. 99% of OSINT has become such an insufferable pro-NATO circle-jerk, or a circle-jerk of whatever community they're from.

Frankly I fail to see how these are bad things. Are we at the point where massive stimulus to boost economic growth is seen as a good thing now?

Much like defense-watching, the majority of economists have only one or two useful takes to contribute, and there's very few who can be objective on a broad range of topics. Whoever they have in-house for the CIA is clearly a "useful idiot".

Furthermore,

"Russia’s so-called special military operation against Ukraine has incurred major, lasting costs for Russia, failed to attain the complete subjugation of Ukraine that Putin initially sought, and rallied the West to defend against Russian aggression."

Whoever wrote that is cringe, and it's embarrassing to see an official government report read like a Twitter NAFO post.
I think there is also just a lot of budget uncertainty given that it is an election year and how divided American politics are. Have they even managed to pass a budget yet or are they still under a continuing resolution? What does America look like if Trump wins the upcoming election? Does that mean more military funding or is that Heritage foundation Project 2025 if enacted going to cause chaos?

NDAA 2024 has been passed but yes technically we are under a CR. Although it's worth pointing out, that what's actually request, what's authorized, and what's actually built and implemented, are all different things.

On a miscellaneous note, the Pentagon spokeswoman is also quite attractive.
Also, the bottom line is that without substantial investments and shifts in employment across a variety of manufacturing sectors it will be very difficult to drastically increase production output. So not only will it require more money, but that money has to be dedicated to building new production facilities and training and retaining workers. That is probably going to take a long time.

Outside of that, I think the Air Force cutting production to focus on future investment is really potentially risky. You have aircraft like the F-15 and F-16 that are being produced right now. If you keep cutting the force in hopes of some future aircraft and it turns out that aircraft is a dud you could be in really big trouble.

I don't really agree. You either get that new platforms made and integrated, or you don't. Spending more money on keeping legacy weapons produced and operational is eating up the budget.
 
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