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mros1

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B-21 seems to be an efficient program so the forecasts that the US will get to >100 aircraft seem correct.

WSJ reporting that the US has 125 bombers right now (60 B-52, 45 B-1 and 20 B-2); wants to order 100 B-21's (but the number of orders will probably get pushed up by future meetings of Congress)
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Soldier30

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The US Air Force has unveiled the new B-21 Raider bomber. The manufacturer positions the bomber as the world's only sixth-generation aircraft. According to Northrop Grumman, the aircraft is capable of reaching anywhere in the world, carrying nuclear and conventional weapons, and overcoming the most advanced air defense systems thanks to improved stealth technology. Since the introduction of the B-2 Spirit aircraft, the B-21 Raider has become the first new US Air Force bomber in 34 years. It is reported that using cloud technologies, you can create a "digital twin" of the aircraft, which will help track the performance of combat missions. The B-21 Raider bomber has evolved from the B-2 bomber and should incorporate all the best. As previously reported, the B-21 should become cheaper in terms of purchase and operation costs than its predecessor, the B-2. This should be achieved by reducing the size of the new bomber and its carrying capacity, as well as partial unification with other US Air Force aircraft. The B-21 has been given a more durable surface material for stealth, requiring less maintenance effort and minimizing operating costs and downtime. The price of the aircraft is $750 million. The first flight of the B-21 Raider bomber should take place in 2023. Detailed specifications of the B-21 are classified.

 

ACuriousPLAFan

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We will see if they can actually keep costs down while moving to mass production. But a large number of stealth bombers as cruise mssile trucks is a pretty credible threat against Chinese naval assets.
B-2s, was meant to be procured in the 100s, Congress slashed plans to purchase 132 bombers to 21...We will see the fate of B-21 too but right now, they need to replace numbers so maybe it will have a better future than B2. But it will be a credible threat to any country even if it end at 50.
Indeed.

Besides, here's the key: The B-2s had its first flight in 1989, and introduced into USAF service in 1997 - The period when the primary threat to the US, i.e. the USSR had been diminished to nothing. In the 1990s and 2000s, the US is basically the sole global superpower, and nobody else anywhere is capable of posing any significant challenge to the US. This meant that there weren't any credible reason for the US government to keep funding the expensive B-2 program, which is why there were only 21 B-2s being made (with the rest 111 B-2 orders cancelled).

Meanwhile, the B-21 was revealed to the public today (Dec 2022), when the US sees itself facing another significant challenger to its hegemony and a rising superpower deemed threatening enough to its hold of power on the global stage, i.e. China. In fact, the Pentagon has been rapidly preparing for war with China in the Western Pacific over Taiwan for the better later half of the last decade, and their effort only would only continue to intensify as we move further into the 2020s.

Henceforth, it would be EXCEPTIONALLY STUPID for China (or anyone, really) to actually think and believe that the US would repeat the same mistake and not digging into their couches in search of more pennies in order to build 100s of those so-called ""downgraded B-2s"" (which I would refrain from making any verdict and conclusion until we can observe more of the bomber later) to employ in their fight against China in the future.

In this context, we should expect that the US would jack up their military spending to way beyond 3.7% of its GDP for the coming years. As a matter of fact, the military expenditure as percentage of the GDP of the US has rarely went below the 5% mark for the entire duration of the Cold War.
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Due to this, we should expect Washington DC to resort to the same measures again in this Second Cold War, even if doing that means signficantly cutting into the spending of other sectors of the US economy that are more related and vital to the lifelihood of the American people.
 
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Sinnavuuty

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Due to this, we should expect Washington DC to resort to the same measures again in this Second Cold War, even if doing that means signficantly cutting into the spending of other sectors of the US economy that are more related and vital to the lifelihood of the American people.
You can bet they will have do that. But economic reality can also knock on the door, forcing them to accept the reality that it is not sustainable to maintain 5% of GDP in military spending with growing social inequality and an unpayable public debt and several other factors.
 

broadsword

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You can bet they will have do that. But economic reality can also knock on the door, forcing them to accept the reality that it is not sustainable to maintain 5% of GDP in military spending with growing social inequality and an unpayable public debt and several other factors.

I doubt and hope they do not accept that reality since they have been full-on on containing China. They have been busy building up the Thucydides trap.
 

sheogorath

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Due to this, we should expect Washington DC to resort to the same measures again in this Second Cold War, even if doing that means signficantly cutting into the spending of other sectors of the US economy that are more related and vital to the lifelihood of the American people.

They will. After the fall of the USSR, they haven't had to pretend to care about the people that much and COVID really put that on display
 
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