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That's the Bell Mock up shown at AUSA18 clearly configured for scout attack.after I had seen:
I recalled this cool picture (presumably recent):
I guess TE knows the source LOL
US Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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First the story never says larger than Virginia class.
The Sea wolf class SSN which they kinda want to return to, is both larger and smaller then Virginia class boats. It's larger in diameter by 2 meters but only one is longer in length the Jimmy Carter which is a special mission ship with a 100 ft length extension giving it a similar length to the Yasen class but narrower diameter.
Only the SSGN and SSBN types are larger.
Virginia class is a bit or a alrounder to be sure but it was designed oriented more to operate in latoral areas specific and shallow sea areas it also has features specific to special operations deployments.
The VPM farther enhanced this with cruise missiles and potentially drones. The Main reasons the Virginia came to be was the end of the cold war and Congress looking to attack Navy bugets so Sea Wolf went from 29 boats to 3. And Virginia was devised to reduce cost and tackle the Asymmetric warfare mission.
The Sea Wolf and Connecticut cost about $3 Billion brand new in 1995 dollars. Today that would be about 4.9 billion. When brand new Virginia class was about 2.7 Billion back in 04. Adjusting again we get 3.6 today. With the Latest off the line running about 3.5 billion with the VPM they have actual dropped the price a little.
They are designed to penetrate an enemy coast line and engage in operations from either the shallows or even riverine deploying Special ops frogmen or missile strikes and escape.
Sea Wolf by contrast is a deep deep water hunter. Her job was to seek stalk and if need be kill other Nuclear submarines. Hence her armament is focused around torpedoes without a VLS. She is designed for deep deep water ops.
What they are talking about is targeting the latter mission role again. That is a deep deep water silent killer. It doesn't need to be bigger it could be, it likely would be wider. But Size doesn't need to equal more.
Next the Russian Navy is not all SSK types they have maintained at great cost a number of vintage SSBN, SSGN, and SSN classes left from the Soviet navy and 90s to early 00s. Russian boats are noted for heavy use of high pressure hulls.
Also their have been rumors of Russia looking to build a smaller cheaper SSN class
the Yasen has sometimes been dubbed the "Seawolfski" because it aimed for similar big goals although it's more of a SSGN type the price has been an issue to the point where it's said to equal two of their new SSBNs.
So a "VirginaSki" seems to be a aim for them. Something less capable perhaps a dedicated SSN and cheaper.
Now yes some want the U.S.N. to seriously look more at the SSP and modern SSK type but other than large Unmanned boats that seams unlikely.
The flexibility of the large nuclear boat is preferred by the U.S. for its long range deep deep water.
Jura The idiot
General
US commander drew firearm in Kandahar attack
no wonder once can see stuff like
The Afghanistan War Is Over. We Lost.
Updated Oct 19, 2018, 05:26 PM
"The Taliban, which knows the U.S. is desperate to leave, just attacked a meeting between Afghan officials and the top U.S. military commander"
etc.
no wonder once can see stuff like
The Afghanistan War Is Over. We Lost.
Updated Oct 19, 2018, 05:26 PM
"The Taliban, which knows the U.S. is desperate to leave, just attacked a meeting between Afghan officials and the top U.S. military commander"
etc.
Jura The idiot
General
Saturday at 8:44 AM
Navy Wants New 'Seawolf-Like' Attack Submarines To Challenge Russian And Chinese Threats
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"However, CBO is warning that this cost estimate may no longer be valid, since the Navy based it on the premise of buying a submarine design derived largely from the existing Virginia-class. If the service’s requirements demand more extensive modifications or a clean-sheet design, this could significantly raise the cost of the program, with the average cost per sub possibly coming out to around $5.5 billion – closer to what a new Seawolf would cost today."
now inside
Navy Wants New 'Seawolf-Like' Attack Submarines To Challenge Russian And Chinese Threats
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"However, CBO is warning that this cost estimate may no longer be valid, since the Navy based it on the premise of buying a submarine design derived largely from the existing Virginia-class. If the service’s requirements demand more extensive modifications or a clean-sheet design, this could significantly raise the cost of the program, with the average cost per sub possibly coming out to around $5.5 billion – closer to what a new Seawolf would cost today."
Jura The idiot
General
Oct 5, 2018
Here’s The Pentagon’s Initial Plan For Creating a Space Force
and, while LOL I go to bed now,
Here’s The Pentagon’s Initial Plan For Creating a Space Force
Jura The idiot
General
Sunday at 8:57 AM
We explore the possibilities, from cutting-edge hypersonics and 1,000-mile cannon to repackaged Tomahawk cruise missiles and updated Pershing ballstic missiles.
now BreakingDefense pulled V-2 and Newton inside
We explore the possibilities, from cutting-edge hypersonics and 1,000-mile cannon to repackaged Tomahawk cruise missiles and updated Pershing ballstic missiles.
Jura The idiot
General
Thursday at 7:56 AM
Boeing's Troubled New KC-46 Pegasus Tanker Just Flew Across The Pacific Ocean To Japan
Just as yet another target delivery date may be emerging, the KC-46 has hopped across the Pacific to visit its first export customer.
but
Boeing's Troubled New KC-46 Pegasus Tanker Just Flew Across The Pacific Ocean To Japan
Just as yet another target delivery date may be emerging, the KC-46 has hopped across the Pacific to visit its first export customer.
... are inside the link which is
- cutting-edge hypersonics
The USA is actually behind Russia, China, even India in deploying these kinds of weapons.
- 1,000-mile cannon
D-U-M-B.
- repackaged Tomahawk cruise missiles
I thought the USA already had stealthy subsonic air launched cruise missiles.
- updated Pershing ballstic missiles
Bwah. No. But it is not particularly hard to build an IRBM or MRBM. Instead of making, say, a three stage rocket you make a two stage or single stage rocket with the same parts. They could use a cut down Trident II missile for example.
Also, notice that unlike Russia, which actually kept their end of the deal and disposed of all the Plutonium in their dismantled nuclear weapon warheads, the USA dragged its feet and the Plutonium is still around despite dismantling the warheads and rockets. How. Convenient. Problem is, if Russia wants to they can easily get more Plutonium. Not only do they have the RBMK reactors still in operational use, the Russian nuclear fuel processing industry is more advanced than the USA's which has left its nuclear industry rot quite a lot. For example their pathetic efforts at building a MOX fuel processing facility or a centrifuge cascade. In theory the USA has even more advanced uranium separation processes available like SILEX with the proper investment but they basically killed that while it was still in the cradle. China has a lot of civilian nuclear reactors and even the CANDU design so I think they have no shortage of Plutonium for nuclear weapons either.
Jura The idiot
General
quote of the day:
“We do see that affordability is a very important element for them,” said Marillyn Hewson, Lockheed Martin’s chief executive, referring to the Pentagon’s weapons buyers.
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Lockheed: DoD Focused on Lowest Price in Recent Competitions; May Affect LM Participation in Future Bids
“We do see that affordability is a very important element for them,” said Marillyn Hewson, Lockheed Martin’s chief executive, referring to the Pentagon’s weapons buyers.
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Lockheed: DoD Focused on Lowest Price in Recent Competitions; May Affect LM Participation in Future Bids
BY JESSE JOHNSON
STAFF WRITER
OCT 23, 2018
The U.S. military has sent two warships through the Taiwan Strait for the second time this year as Washington ramps up its passages through the waterway amid tensions with China.
The two vessels, the guided-missile destroyer USS Curtis Wilbur and the guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam, conducted what the U.S. military said was a “routine” transit of the Taiwan Strait on Monday, “in accordance with international law.”
Both warships are home-ported at the U.S. naval base in Yokosuka, Kanagawa Prefecture.
“The ships’ transit through the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the U.S. commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific,” U.S. Pacific Fleet Deputy Spokesman Cmdr. Nate Christensen said in a statement. “U.S. Navy will continue to fly, sail and operate anywhere international law allows.”
Multiple Chinese warships had shadowed the two U.S. vessels during the transit, following at a safe distance, CNN reported, quoting defense officials.
Beijing expressed “serious concern” to the United States, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a news conference Tuesday.
“The Taiwan issue concerns China’s sovereignty and territory, and is the most important, most sensitive issue in China-U.S. relations,” she said.
China urged the United States to cautiously and appropriately handle the Taiwan issue to promote peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait, she added.
Taiwan’s Defense Ministry had earlier announced on its website that the United States had sent two naval vessels through the 180-kilometer-wide stretch of water.
The ministry said in a statement that it had monitored the warships’ passage through the strait, and that it had been “in full control of the situation.”
China remains extremely sensitive about U.S. military forces in the waterway. The U.S. Navy last conducted a similar mission through the international waters in July, but before that had sent just one ship through the Taiwan Strait last year. It has not sailed an aircraft carrier in the area since 2007.
The operation comes amid heightened tensions between Taiwan and China, which has warned that it will defend — by force if necessary — its “One China” principle under which the self-ruling island is seen as part of China’s own territory, awaiting reunification.
Beijing has also lashed out at Washington over recent moves it sees as aiding the country.
The U.S. has no formal ties with Taiwan but is bound by law to help it defend itself and is the island’s main source of arms. The Pentagon says Washington has sold Taipei more than $15 billion in weaponry since 2010.
China has bolstered its military presence near Taiwan this year, sailing its sole operating aircraft carrier through the Taiwan Strait in January and March and holding large-scale “encirclement” exercises and bomber training nearby in recent months.
China’s hostility toward Taiwan has grown since the 2016 election of President Tsai Ing-wen, a member of the island’s pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party.
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