US Air Force LRS-B Bomber Thread - the B-21 Raider

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Ahhh yes. Talk about a big fail for the USAF however the cold war was ending and something tells me USAF generals gave no F's anymore about whoever saw the B2's rearend back then.
More like NG security. The roll out was open. Eventually the rear would be public. B2 was a grey program in development. Meaning it had classified aspects, but would become public. It was well known what the basic form would be. For B21 the USAF had official renders. For the B2 there was the 1988 Honda CRX si.
 

sheogorath

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Wrong. US military cries to media the sky is falling so that media can cry to politicians that China is scary and US military needs more funding.
Not talking just about the military aspect but pretty much everything.

China builds a city ahead of time as part of future planning?. "Look at the Chinese building ghost cities to pretend they are a modern country and not a failure"

People move into the "ghost cities"?. "Look at the Chinese forcing people to live in these ghost cities to pretend they weren't a waste of money"

Heck, the west is still seething and coping about China's covid policies after killing 2.700.000 of their people for their refusal to do anything about it because the economy was more important. Now you don't have economy nor people.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
In general, I don't have an opinion on a plane that has never flown and was unveiled simply because prototypes were constructed. China unveils planes for official introduction when it is near or already inducted into our armed forces; since the B-21 is the first new design that the US introduced since I started military watching about a decade ago, I didn't realize that the US liked to introduce things at a prototype completed stage. In any case, unlike many Americans, I'm focused and excited about the developments of my own country and have no desire to trash-talk others (unless provoked of course) because regardless of whether they do poorly or well or anything in between, I have full confidence in the Chinese innovative capacity to always surpass its rivals in due time.

That said,
The giveaway that the plane is functional (and should live up to its expected marketing) is that even the Global Times is seething mad about the plane instead of being dismissive as it usually is
1. How do you differentiate between seething mad and dismissive? Because that quote read as dismissive to me. It's literally dismissing the B-21 as any kind of game-changer that could alter the course of a battle for Taiwan isl.
2. China's reaction doesn't give away anything about the plane because that would assume that China knows the functionality of an untested American plane when it hasn't even flown yet. The US themselves don't know if it's functional or if it can live up to expectations because that is what the testing phase is for.
If The War Zone suddenly became seething mad instead of dismissive, that would in fact, be highly interesting and inferences would be reasonably drawn as is the case with Global Times which is generaly dismissive of US capabilities, well until now
Once again, I don't think you have the reading comprehension capability to differentiate between the two. The general trend of Americans is to talk down on all Chinese military designs. And I think it's even more funny that you immediately came to an impossible conclusion about the functionality of a plane that has never left the ground based on a falsey perceived reaction and then clearly said that if the reaction were opposite or from the US, it would just be highly interesting and we should draw reasonable inferences LOL. Your inference was the least logical and least reasonable of all.
Wrong. US military cries to media the sky is falling so that media can cry to politicians that China is scary and US military needs more funding.
Then it works the other way with China as well LOL
 
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Maikeru

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No idea how accurate the RCS are or how realistic the sim is (probably not very, the bombers would launch JASSM from long before detection range) but I found this DCS video quite entertaining. B1, B2 and B21 escorted by F22s attacking Port Stanley defended by, er, J10Cs.

 

bebops

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USAF Strategic Bomber Fleet With B-21 Raider ‘Much Superior’ To Anything That China & Russia Have – Air Warfare Expert

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New article about b21. Not sure if I should take the face value of their words.
 

Atomicfrog

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USAF Strategic Bomber Fleet With B-21 Raider ‘Much Superior’ To Anything That China & Russia Have – Air Warfare Expert

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New article about b21. Not sure if I should take the face value of their words.
B-21 never got in the sky yet. We can say that when it will fly and all his system will be operational, it will be quite a nice military hardware.

Don't know when it will happen and in that time if it will be still ''Much Superior''To Anything That China & Russia Have. We will see in about 10 years or so if they work faster than with the f-35.

F-35 have not even all his system working in 2022 and the the first F-35A, designated AA-1, was rolled out in Fort Worth, Texas, on 19 February 2006. It's been 16 years already and they didn't sorted out that fighter with a lot less capabilities...
 
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