Ukrainian War Developments

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Atomicfrog

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Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile. Kharkov, Kherson are all on Russia's menu.
They will have it anyway... East of Dnieper and all the south of the country. They will probably give the Bessarabia administration to the Transdniestria. So nothing to lose making these concessions beside a bit of pride and less blood on the ground.
 

Atomicfrog

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There are more reports coming out today that the Russians are failing to make any significant progress towards encircling Kiev. At this point, I doubt they will ever take it. To me it seems like their best bets now are in the south and the east. The northern front was kind of a total disaster.
They are there to stall most of the Ukrainian army in the West... I don't think they ever planned to take it if it was resisting. Right now they are baiting the Ukrainians in Kiev so they can take East, South. If it turn sour like hell, they will melt it to the ground so no take over, just destruction. First few days was probing to see support and finding where the Ukrainian army was. Now it's Russian grinder part.
 

Jj888

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They are there to stall most of the Ukrainian army in the West... I don't think they ever planned to take it if it was resisting. Right now they are baiting the Ukrainians in Kiev so they can take East, South. If it turn sour like hell, they will melt it to the ground so no take over, just destruction. First few days was probing to see support and finding where the Ukrainian army was. Now it's Russian grinder part.
Once the borders are controlled it’s just the grinder at work.
 

Bill Blazo

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They are there to stall most of the Ukrainian army in the West... I don't think they ever planned to take it if it was resisting. Right now they are baiting the Ukrainians in Kiev so they can take East, South. If it turn sour like hell, they will melt it to the ground so no take over, just destruction. First few days was probing to see support and finding where the Ukrainian army was. Now it's Russian grinder part.
But is that true though? Is most of the Ukrainian army actually around Kiev? You could be right, I'm just not sure. I read that most of it was still on the eastern front, about 70,000 in and around the Donbas. This huge concentration of troops is the biggest reason why the Russians are having a hard time breaking through the Severodonetsk-Rubizhne-Lysyschank urban agglomeration in Luhansk. And also why the Ukrainians are giving them a tough fight for Izium.
 

Atomicfrog

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But is that true though? Is most of the Ukrainian army actually around Kiev? You could be right, I'm just not sure. I read that most of it was still on the eastern front, about 70,000 in and around the Donbas. This huge concentration of troops is the biggest reason why the Russians are having a hard time breaking through the Severodonetsk-Rubizhne-Lysyschank urban agglomeration in Luhansk. And also why the Ukrainians are giving them a tough fight for Izium.
Most of the army in the west, never talked about the one fighting in the east...they are their from the beginning. So the east is left to defend herself a lot and will be grinded to nothing because a lot of the reinforcement just go to protect Kiev from the ''encirclement'' well Russian camping...
 

FADH1791

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If Russia is having manpower issues they should form a Russian foreign legion. Recruit foreign fighters who have military experience. Also there is has to be plenty ex military and law enforcement in Russia who can be recruited by Wagner Group. These forces could be used in counter insurgency operations after the conventional stage of the war is over in the south and East. The insurgency will be an annoyance for Russia as they are backed by the west with manpads and atgms. Once the south and East is under Russian control they have to recruit from the Russian speaking populace to create a standing army like the DPR and LPR forces. That way Russia doesn’t have to maintain a large and expensive presence.
 
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