Ukrainian War Developments

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SinoSoldier

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So what's been stopping Russia front flattening the roads or bridge in Western Ukraine by which NATO send NLAW's or similar legal hardware from Poland? Or else the casualties on the Russian end will pile up exponentially over time.

Additionally, is Russia able to send in more surveillance drones at least? At least activate SAM assets to take out those of Azov at the very least.

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It is essentially saying that any attack on supply lines of NATO nations would trigger the Article 5 clause. What is vague, and perhaps deliberately so, is that it makes no mention of whether or not attack against said supply lines within Ukraine's borders would trigger the same clause.
 

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Perhaps this might shed some light:
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It is essentially saying that any attack on supply lines of NATO nations would trigger the Article 5 clause. What is vague, and perhaps deliberately so, is that it makes no mention of whether or not attack against said supply lines within Ukraine's borders would trigger the same clause.
The Russians will of course bomb supply convoys inside Ukraine if they had the means to.
They'll just assume all the trucks are driven by Ukrainian drivers.
Are you really suggesting they won't?
 

Stealthflanker

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Guess that explains why Russia concentrate on getting the supply depo flattened, or encircle the city where the supplies are going to instead.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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It is essentially saying that any attack on supply lines of NATO nations would trigger the Article 5 clause. What is vague, and perhaps deliberately so, is that it makes no mention of whether or not attack against said supply lines within Ukraine's borders would trigger the same clause.
This is a delusional interpretation. The only way NATO can justify that their supply line in Ukraine is attacked is by becoming a active participant in war, which it already decided against.
 

cn_habs

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This is a delusional interpretation. The only way NATO can justify that their supply line in Ukraine is attacked is by becoming a active participant in war, which it already decided against.
I mean what is GLONASS really for if Russia can't spot and destroy the supply trucks the moment they enter Ukraine? It seems quite simple to do isn't?

The only problem I can think of is the constant presence of civilians leaving to Poland on those roads. If Russia had any potent drones, she would just fly them from Belarus and just keep them in the air till there are no civilians around those rectangular military trucks.
 

Stealthflanker

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I mean what is GLONASS really for if Russia can't spot and destroy the supply trucks the moment they enter Ukraine? It seems quite simple to do isn't?

Glonass is Navigation satellite which have nothing to do with any targeting. It helps cruise missiles and such determines where they are but NOT to spot target. Glonass satellite have NO sensors whatsoever be it ESM, radars or optics.

To target the supply convoy or bases Russia needs drones or Tu-214R aircraft. That is my friend can spot for the strike.
 

WickedhichofWest

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About the Xi, Macron and Scholz conference, here is the transcription from FM.
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An interesting part at the end

中方支持法德两国从欧洲自身利益出发,为欧洲持久安全着想,坚持战略自主,推动构建均衡、有效、可持续的欧洲安全框架。
China support France and Germany thinking from Europe's own interests, for Europe's long term peace, maintaining strategic independence, push for balanced, effective, sustainable security framework in Europe.


As always, the true meaning in diplomatic talk is always in the words that are not directly said. In China's view, Europe is not independent, is sacrificing its own interests for US to build unbalanced framework. The wording is rather a criticism than a encouragement or compliment.

中方乐见欧俄美及北约开展平等对话。
China is also willing to see Europe, Russia, US and NATO to have a equal dialog. This "也"/"also" means that it is a secondary point after the Frenco-German dialog with Russia.


From reading this, my understanding is that, China is trying to get US and NATO out of Europe or downsized. This is a condition for China to get involved.

In the mean time here is how CNN (US mouth piece) "reported" twisted the event
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Firstly, it says
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. Then after opening the article the headline changes to "Xi says China is willing to play role in mediating Ukraine crisis, in call with European leaders".

This is the usual trick of planting false claim by delarbete misleading headline. China isn't going to mediate, or play a role untill the conditions are met.

In the article, there is not a single word about China's comment about Europe's own interests, independence and balance.

This is another trick of misinformation by telling the partial truth, taking words out of perspective.
Thanks for these insights in the interpretation of the Chinese diplomatic note.
 

SanWenYu

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On March 06, Blinken proposed that if Poland sends their Mig29s to Ukraine, the US will be glad to make it up for Poland with F16s. The Polish government immediately rejects it and denies the media reports as "fake news".

当日早些时候,波兰总统安杰伊·杜达在个人社交平台上指出,波兰没有向乌克兰转移战机的计划,也不会允许其他国家用波兰境内的机场向乌克兰转移战机。杜达表示,波兰会在其他领域为乌克兰提供援助。
波兰总理官方推特账号在6日转发了波兰武装部队在3月3日发布的一条推文,内容是“波兰空军的所有米格-29战斗机都在波兰的基地。”该账号也在转发文案中N+1次强调波兰方面的态度:“波兰不会向乌克兰派遣战斗机,也不会允许其使用本国的机场。而我们在许多其他领域提供了大量帮助。”

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On March 08, Poland counter-proposed that it can send all its Mig29s to the Ramstein US Air Base in Germany so the US can deliver the aircrafts to Ukraine. Poland won't charge for these Mig29s and is willing to pay for the second hand F16s promised by the US. Poland also urges other NATO members with Mig29s to follow suit.

The US government dismisses the idea as being "too complicated and too risky".

据路透社3月8日消息,波兰外交部表示,波兰已经准备好将所有米格-29(MIG-29)战机机免费转移到德国的美军拉姆斯坦空军基地(Ramstein Air Base),供美军使用,并敦促其他拥有米格-29战机的北约成员国也这么做。
CNN报道称,柯比表示,波兰的想法过于冒险,因为美国和北约试图避免与俄罗斯发生直接冲突。

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Ukraine: Cowards.

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