Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Saw Fighters? Fighters was Debunked, It was A Buk missile system the only ones still pushing fighters are conspiracy theorist and propagandists.
Combat Aircraft! The Dutch Safety Board concluded it was a Buk missile system.
I'll bet.
It was not a Air to Air shoot down.
At this time I don't know who to believe anymore. Both sides had their credible stories with evidence and both sides view can be challenge by the others. I'm afraid we won't get the whole truth for decades.
One thing is for sure though - civilian planes flying over war zones is a bad idea, especially if they don't really need to.
Jura The idiot
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"Published on May 27, 2017
In Sevastopol on Saturday, May 27, a mass protest took place against the draft new master plan of the city. About 1 thousand people took part in the rally. They expressed disagreement with the draft general plan, which was proposed by the head of Russia's government-controlled Dmitry Ovsyannikov. The document provides for transferring the land of the private sector to the low-rise multi-apartment building zone and formally allows demolition of individual houses in these territories."
inside related info at gazeta.ru ()
Jura The idiot
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I am Dutch.
And i can tell you now that they looked at a small piece of evidence. The rest was neglected and left behind.
I do not believe the dutch investigation at all... Nor do i believe anything from my goverment and im a OR5 of the Dutch Navy.
And i can tell you now that they looked at a small piece of evidence. The rest was neglected and left behind.
I do not believe the dutch investigation at all... Nor do i believe anything from my goverment and im a OR5 of the Dutch Navy.
Jura The idiot
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in Java Sea perhaps?
timepass
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UKRAINE’S ANTONOV SEEKS US INDUSTRY COOPERATION FOR AN-70-BASED LIFTER
Ukrainian aircraft manufacturer Antonov that is seeking U.S. industry support for its proposed revival of the An-70 medium-lift transport aircraft, the An-77.
Building upon the success and growing promise of the An-132D, which Antonov is producing in partnership with Saudi Arabia’s Taqnia and King Abdulaziz City of Science and Industry (KACST), Antonov is of an upgraded and NATO-standard variant of the shelved An-70.
With a payload capacity of 47 tons, Antonov is aiming to position the An-77 as a complimentary solution between the C-130J (21 tons) and C-17 (76 tons), much like the Airbus Defence and Space (DS) A400M.
At the 2017 Paris Air Show, UkrOboronProm’s Director General Roman Romanov stated (via ) that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence will procure the An-70 as part of its tactical transport requirements. Romanov added that the An-70 was also drawing interest from several prospective overseas buyers.
Notes & Comments:
IHS Jane’s states that Antonov “has begun applying the learning experiences from the [An-132D] … in particular the replacement of Russian systems and components with Western ones …” for enhancing the competitiveness of its products and complying with “more widely established standards.”
Granted, while it can provide lift coverage comparable to that of the Airbus DS A400M, there are notable qualitative gaps. Applying the An-132D model, especially in the domain of electronics and subsystems, enable the An-77 to close those qualitative gaps.
For example, the An-70 does not appear to have Computed Air Release Point (CARP) software, which would enable it to determine an optimal release point for airdropped cargo. Besides CARP, the An-77 would also need Required Navigation Performance (RNP) and Required Area Navigation (RNAV), which are staples of modern Western military transport aircraft. Partnering with Rockwell Collins, which provides CARP, RNP and RNAV suites for the C-130J and Embraer KC-390, could interest Antonov.
It is not known if Antonov intends to carry over the Ivchenko Progress/Motor Sich engine to the An-77. Intended for the An-70, the D-27 has not entered mass production, and it is not clear if the D-27 has matured to the extent of being cleared for widespread usage. The D-27 was envisaged as a next-generation platform with improved serviceability, lower life-cycle costs and higher performance attributes in comparison to older turbofan and turboprop engines used on older Russian and Ukrainian aircraft.
Another aspect of the An-132D model is the focus on controlling cost. While the An-132D has a substantial input of Western systems, such as the Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150 turboprop engine and Honeywell Primus Epic 2.0 avionics suite, Antonov and its Saudi partners Taqinia and KACST are working to keep the price competitive. The An-132D costs $30 million U.S. to acquire and has an operational flight cost of under $3,000 per hour.
Achieving cost competitiveness with a Westernized An-77 would infuse considerable promise in the An-77, especially in Latin America and Asia. It will also be interesting to see if Antonov enables the An-77 to serve as an in-flight refuelling tanker (like the A400M). This would position the An-77 as an adept strategic asset for logistics and auxiliary combat support.
Source: Quwa...
Ukrainian aircraft manufacturer Antonov that is seeking U.S. industry support for its proposed revival of the An-70 medium-lift transport aircraft, the An-77.
Building upon the success and growing promise of the An-132D, which Antonov is producing in partnership with Saudi Arabia’s Taqnia and King Abdulaziz City of Science and Industry (KACST), Antonov is of an upgraded and NATO-standard variant of the shelved An-70.
With a payload capacity of 47 tons, Antonov is aiming to position the An-77 as a complimentary solution between the C-130J (21 tons) and C-17 (76 tons), much like the Airbus Defence and Space (DS) A400M.
At the 2017 Paris Air Show, UkrOboronProm’s Director General Roman Romanov stated (via ) that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence will procure the An-70 as part of its tactical transport requirements. Romanov added that the An-70 was also drawing interest from several prospective overseas buyers.
Notes & Comments:
IHS Jane’s states that Antonov “has begun applying the learning experiences from the [An-132D] … in particular the replacement of Russian systems and components with Western ones …” for enhancing the competitiveness of its products and complying with “more widely established standards.”
Granted, while it can provide lift coverage comparable to that of the Airbus DS A400M, there are notable qualitative gaps. Applying the An-132D model, especially in the domain of electronics and subsystems, enable the An-77 to close those qualitative gaps.
For example, the An-70 does not appear to have Computed Air Release Point (CARP) software, which would enable it to determine an optimal release point for airdropped cargo. Besides CARP, the An-77 would also need Required Navigation Performance (RNP) and Required Area Navigation (RNAV), which are staples of modern Western military transport aircraft. Partnering with Rockwell Collins, which provides CARP, RNP and RNAV suites for the C-130J and Embraer KC-390, could interest Antonov.
It is not known if Antonov intends to carry over the Ivchenko Progress/Motor Sich engine to the An-77. Intended for the An-70, the D-27 has not entered mass production, and it is not clear if the D-27 has matured to the extent of being cleared for widespread usage. The D-27 was envisaged as a next-generation platform with improved serviceability, lower life-cycle costs and higher performance attributes in comparison to older turbofan and turboprop engines used on older Russian and Ukrainian aircraft.
Another aspect of the An-132D model is the focus on controlling cost. While the An-132D has a substantial input of Western systems, such as the Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150 turboprop engine and Honeywell Primus Epic 2.0 avionics suite, Antonov and its Saudi partners Taqinia and KACST are working to keep the price competitive. The An-132D costs $30 million U.S. to acquire and has an operational flight cost of under $3,000 per hour.
Achieving cost competitiveness with a Westernized An-77 would infuse considerable promise in the An-77, especially in Latin America and Asia. It will also be interesting to see if Antonov enables the An-77 to serve as an in-flight refuelling tanker (like the A400M). This would position the An-77 as an adept strategic asset for logistics and auxiliary combat support.
Source: Quwa...
Interesting, but it would not be bought by US or European countries so who would buy it?UKRAINE’S ANTONOV SEEKS US INDUSTRY COOPERATION FOR AN-70-BASED LIFTER
Ukrainian aircraft manufacturer Antonov that is seeking U.S. industry support for its proposed revival of the An-70 medium-lift transport aircraft, the An-77.
Building upon the success and growing promise of the An-132D, which Antonov is producing in partnership with Saudi Arabia’s Taqnia and King Abdulaziz City of Science and Industry (KACST), Antonov is of an upgraded and NATO-standard variant of the shelved An-70.
With a payload capacity of 47 tons, Antonov is aiming to position the An-77 as a complimentary solution between the C-130J (21 tons) and C-17 (76 tons), much like the Airbus Defence and Space (DS) A400M.
At the 2017 Paris Air Show, UkrOboronProm’s Director General Roman Romanov stated (via ) that the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence will procure the An-70 as part of its tactical transport requirements. Romanov added that the An-70 was also drawing interest from several prospective overseas buyers.
Notes & Comments:
IHS Jane’s states that Antonov “has begun applying the learning experiences from the [An-132D] … in particular the replacement of Russian systems and components with Western ones …” for enhancing the competitiveness of its products and complying with “more widely established standards.”
Granted, while it can provide lift coverage comparable to that of the Airbus DS A400M, there are notable qualitative gaps. Applying the An-132D model, especially in the domain of electronics and subsystems, enable the An-77 to close those qualitative gaps.
For example, the An-70 does not appear to have Computed Air Release Point (CARP) software, which would enable it to determine an optimal release point for airdropped cargo. Besides CARP, the An-77 would also need Required Navigation Performance (RNP) and Required Area Navigation (RNAV), which are staples of modern Western military transport aircraft. Partnering with Rockwell Collins, which provides CARP, RNP and RNAV suites for the C-130J and Embraer KC-390, could interest Antonov.
It is not known if Antonov intends to carry over the Ivchenko Progress/Motor Sich engine to the An-77. Intended for the An-70, the D-27 has not entered mass production, and it is not clear if the D-27 has matured to the extent of being cleared for widespread usage. The D-27 was envisaged as a next-generation platform with improved serviceability, lower life-cycle costs and higher performance attributes in comparison to older turbofan and turboprop engines used on older Russian and Ukrainian aircraft.
Another aspect of the An-132D model is the focus on controlling cost. While the An-132D has a substantial input of Western systems, such as the Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150 turboprop engine and Honeywell Primus Epic 2.0 avionics suite, Antonov and its Saudi partners Taqinia and KACST are working to keep the price competitive. The An-132D costs $30 million U.S. to acquire and has an operational flight cost of under $3,000 per hour.
Achieving cost competitiveness with a Westernized An-77 would infuse considerable promise in the An-77, especially in Latin America and Asia. It will also be interesting to see if Antonov enables the An-77 to serve as an in-flight refuelling tanker (like the A400M). This would position the An-77 as an adept strategic asset for logistics and auxiliary combat support.
Source: Quwa...