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Jura The idiot

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Jura said:
not sure if it's the same kind of "small beer" as above, and not sure where to put quotes in the following:
former Prime Minister of
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hanged himself tonight after he had been accused of organizing a coup:
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more is in the related blog by "Cassad":
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still not sure about the placement of quotes, updating the current status (according to
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) of two other coup plotters:
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    (shown in Debaltsevo in February of 2015)
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    Deputy Minister of Defense of
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    arrested in
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    ; status: dead
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    Chairman of Supreme Council of
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    arrested in Rostov-upon-Don; status: alive
 
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(LOL the first time on the SDF I've pronounced dead a person who's been alive)
Mr. Kyselyov has been in custody in
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and
Today at 6:49 AM
Jura said:
... the current status (according to
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) of ...
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    (shown in Debaltsevo in February of 2015)
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    Deputy Minister of Defense of
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    arrested in
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    ; status: dead ...
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... the source was wrong, so I was wrong, and I'm sorry
 
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delft

Brigadier
Jura said:
ehm
Moscow calls for Donbass integration into Ukraine — diplomat
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October 06, 11:55 UTC+3
A diplomat stresses Russia wants Donbass to be integrated into Ukraine on an equal basis

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That's not news. It has been the position all along. Moscow just wants to ensure the human rights of the Russian speaking population, and no doubt also that of the Hungarian speakers and any other minorities.
It is what the Minsk agreement says that Kiev is dilatory in executing.
 
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delft said:
That's not news. ...
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LOLOL do you want me to post the info (Spring of 2015?) about Russian Federation passports "being issued in Donbass" with so enthusiastic discussions under the respective blogs? back then, this info was taken seriously (despite it was faked :) by many ... it wouldn't be news, so I would look it up only if you insisted ... now basically all say the other possibility, which is "Mr. Putin left Donbass behind", is what's going on:
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you may of course tell me I don't have a representative sample of opinions, and that's fine, I just wanted to react to your Kremlin line
 
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delft

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Jura said:
LOLOL do you want me to post the info (Spring of 2015?) about Russian Federation passports "being issued in Donbass" with so enthusiastic discussions under the respective blogs? back then, this info was taken seriously (despite it was faked :) by many ... it wouldn't be news, so I would look it up only if you insisted ... now basically all say the other possibility, which is "Mr. Putin left Donbass behind", is what's going on:
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you may of course tell me I don't have a representative sample of opinions, and that's fine, I just wanted to react to your Kremlin line
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I remember reading long ago an analysis by the Saker who collected most of this and showed that despite some incoherence Moscow had no interest in annexing any part of Ukraine. Ukraine is a multi language country and it cannot be in Moscow's interest to help the Kiev extremists to make it less so. Enormous damage has been done to the Donbas region by Kiev and Kiev should pay for repairing it. So Moscow insists on the execution of the Minsk agreement that includes delegation of authority to the regions.
 
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Jura The idiot

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delft said:
... So Moscow insists on the execution of the Minsk agreement that includes delegation of authority to the regions.
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... and "Restore full control over the state border by Ukrainian government in the whole conflict zone ..."
(item #9 in
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); delft do you realize this would be an outrage for Separatists? (and yet another so called "smart plan" of Mr. Putin; it's ... something his opponents, from Communists to Liberals :) use when they comment on inexplicable decisions ... just trying to briefly explain what I meant)
 
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Jura The idiot

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kinda Brigadas Internacionales member, Mr. Stimson of Manchester (to the left above), arrested:
TERROR ARREST
First pictures of Brit charged with two terrorism offences linked to the conflict in eastern Ukraine
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and a rally in his support took place in Saint Petersburg yesterday:
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delft

Brigadier
Jura said:
... and "Restore full control over the state border by Ukrainian government in the whole conflict zone ..."
(item #9 in
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); delft do you realize this would be an outrage for Separatists? (and yet another so called "smart plan" of Mr. Putin; it's ... something his opponents, from Communists to Liberals :) use when they comment on inexplicable decisions ... just trying to briefly explain what I meant)
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Only after Ukraine introduced devolution of much authority to the regions, which according to the Minsk agreement should have happened long ago but which Kiev refuses to do.
 
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delft

Brigadier
Jura said:
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kinda Brigadas Internacionales member, Mr. Stimson of Manchester (to the left above), arrested:
TERROR ARREST
First pictures of Brit charged with two terrorism offences linked to the conflict in eastern Ukraine
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and a rally in his support took place in Saint Petersburg yesterday:
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In UK you can be arrested for having a presumed intention?
 
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