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SampanViking

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We can only speculate on what the UK 15 were doing, but I would like to know more about Mr X and what he was doing there. He was obviously more than a normal Sailor or Marine.

Perhaps he's SBS or a member of some other branch of the special forces along for his specialist skills, there's a long standing prohibition on the media showing pictures of SF personnel.

As a rule I don't buy conspiracy theories, why run a black operation in broad daylight right under the Iranians' noses and not provide any worthwhile backup?
 

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Hi Neutral Zone

I think conspiracy is the wrong word. What we can be sure of is that as revolutionary Gaurds are supplying Shia groups with material assistance, that there is an Intelligence "War" being waged along all borders of a sort we have not seen since the end of the cold war.

It may be the case that SF or MI are currently normal compliment for inspection patrols. To me though it does sound a bit like Special Branch or the FBI turning up on your doorstep after you report a missing Cat. If they are normal compliment, just there to ensure that the significance of anything found is fully understood, then there is no further dimension. If however, they are not normal compliment and an unusual compliment just happens to run into a group of Revolutionary Guards under disputed circumstances, then things may not be quite as straight forward, as others would like us to believe.

Of course its all conjecture, but conjucture is good exercise for a fit, healthy and active mind:D
 
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Completion of the world's most advanced air defence warship by BAE Systems has moved a step closer with the installation of the company's advanced Sampson radar on top of HMS Daring, the first of the Royal Navy's new Type 45 destroyers. The radar will now be integrated with the Principal Anti Air Missile System (PAAMS) and the vessel's combat system at the company's Clyde shipyard.

Sampson, which will sit nearly 40 metres above sea level at the top of the ship's mast, will provide an all-seeing eye for the defence of the Type 45 and the fleet it is designed to protect. It can detect even tiny, fast-moving targets out to a distance of hundreds of kilometres and provide second-by-second information to the PAAMS system's Aster missiles to neutralise threats. The radar is capable of tracking hundreds of targets at any one time and will provide a massive improvement to the Royal Navy's current self-defence capability.

Dave Twitchin, the MOD's Type 45 project leader said: "The installation of Sampson on board Daring is a fundamental step forward for the program. The radar is a vital component in the ship's defence system, and will allow the Type 45 destroyer to deliver significant capabilities to the Royal Navy fleet."

BAE Systems Surface Fleet Solutions' managing director Vic Emery said: "The Type 45 is the most advanced warship in the world to date. The achievement of this milestone means that Daring remains on course to begin sea trials later this year, when the full integration of the radar can really begin in earnest."

The Type 45 programme will provide the Royal Navy with a versatile destroyer capable of contributing to worldwide maritime and joint operations for much of the first half of this century. As well as providing a specialist air warfare capability, the ships are also versatile assets capable of performing tasks from peace support and defence diplomacy through to high-intensity warfare.

Sampson is the first of a new generation of multi-function radars. It provides surveillance, target tracking and missile guidance information for the MBDA Principal Anti-Air Missile System (PAAMS) that will be the main armament of the Type 45. This air defence system is so advanced it can track, identify and eliminate a potential threat the size of a cricket ball travelling at three times the speed of sound. Its Aster missiles can manouevre at 60G, 20 times more than a Formula 1 car.

The contract from the UK Ministry of Defence, through the tri-national PAAMS programme office based in Paris, is to provide three prototype radars to qualify the PAAMS missile system and the Type 45 destroyer combat system and provide the initial production system for the first-of-class ship HMS Daring. Five further production radars are also on order.

I honestly cannot wait until next year, as I believe that is when Daring will be finished and start sea-trials. I am sure she will look wonderful when she's finished.
 

Neutral Zone

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Hi Neutral Zone

I think conspiracy is the wrong word. What we can be sure of is that as revolutionary Gaurds are supplying Shia groups with material assistance, that there is an Intelligence "War" being waged along all borders of a sort we have not seen since the end of the cold war.

It may be the case that SF or MI are currently normal compliment for inspection patrols. To me though it does sound a bit like Special Branch or the FBI turning up on your doorstep after you report a missing Cat. If they are normal compliment, just there to ensure that the significance of anything found is fully understood, then there is no further dimension. If however, they are not normal compliment and an unusual compliment just happens to run into a group of Revolutionary Guards under disputed circumstances, then things may not be quite as straight forward, as others would like us to believe.

Of course its all conjecture, but conjucture is good exercise for a fit, healthy and active mind:D

It was common in Northern Ireland for SAS personnel to be slipped into Army units disguised as members of something innocuous like Transport Corps or Royal Engineers. This guy could have been just a Arabic/Farsi linguist there to act as a translator for the boarding party or he could have been an instructor and was assessing the crew's performance. Any explanation is possible, one thing is certain though, if he was SF we won't know what he was doing there for a very long time! :D
 

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I honestly cannot wait until next year, as I believe that is when Daring will be finished and start sea-trials. I am sure she will look wonderful when she's finished.

Interesting story and a very cool link. Thanks for the heads up!

Also, I agree with you that the "dog" reference was demeaning and unnecessary. I would never have thought that Lord Nelson's navy would be called a "dog", and you chaps are in no way subordinate to anyone else.

England expects that every man will do his duty
Lord Nelson, Trafalgar.
 

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I honestly cannot wait until next year, as I believe that is when Daring will be finished and start sea-trials. I am sure she will look wonderful when she's finished.

Indeed, I just hope we see enough of her sisters join the fleet in the coming years to make up a viable navy. There won't be much point in building 2 big carriers if there is no escort force worth talking about :mad:
 
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Indeed, I just hope we see enough of her sisters join the fleet in the coming years to make up a viable navy. There won't be much point in building 2 big carriers if there is no escort force worth talking about :mad:

Definitely. I try to remain optimistic - we shall see what happens. What do you see as the minimum needed - 6 or 8?
 

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Hi Popeye - they kicked your dog but are not so keen to touch your kids - if you know what I mean

Guys, I was not insulted by this remark. I thought he was making an anology.....Let's just leave it at that.:) :eek:ff
 

Neutral Zone

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Definitely. I try to remain optimistic - we shall see what happens. What do you see as the minimum needed - 6 or 8?

For me 8 is the bare minimum, 10 would be good, the original requirement of 12 would be superb. As well as numbers I hope they turn out more than just pure area air defence ships, and that means TLAM, Harpoon and in a perfect world, RAM.
 
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