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Re: Take UK troops out of Iraq, senior military told ministers
I'm not sure Austria can cancel the purchase. Well, to be more specific, it can cancel the order, but at this late stage penalty costs could easily be nearly as much as the planes themselves.
I'm not sure Austria can cancel the purchase. Well, to be more specific, it can cancel the order, but at this late stage penalty costs could easily be nearly as much as the planes themselves.
Re: Take UK troops out of Iraq, senior military told ministers
anyhow, I really hope it doesn't, since typhoon is such a nice plane and deserves some export orders. I would really hate to see F-35 taking all the orders. Anyhow, a little bit on the aircraft carriers, looking like the projects might face some delays.
anyhow, I really hope it doesn't, since typhoon is such a nice plane and deserves some export orders. I would really hate to see F-35 taking all the orders. Anyhow, a little bit on the aircraft carriers, looking like the projects might face some delays.
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In relations to tphuang's last post, that problem now seems resolved. Apologies for the link - registration only.
More up-to-date news from Jane's. Sorry, I don't have a subscription. Well, who does?
Anyway, it's a bit of good news. Seems like things are moving towards Main Gate, though I will keep my fingers crossed.
More up-to-date news from Jane's. Sorry, I don't have a subscription. Well, who does?
Anyway, it's a bit of good news. Seems like things are moving towards Main Gate, though I will keep my fingers crossed.
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UK to make significant troop reductions in Iraq in 2007
British commitment in Iraq to be 'significantly' reduced by end of 2007
By Jennifer Quinn
ASSOCIATED PRESS
10:30 a.m. November 27, 2006
LONDON – Thousands of British soldiers will leave Iraq over the next year, significantly downgrading the country's commitment in the region, the defense secretary said Monday. Poland and Italy also announced the impending withdrawal of their remaining troops.
The reduction of British troops will occur as control of two southern provinces is transferred to Iraqi forces, although Defense Secretary Des Browne insisted that “handover does not mean withdrawal.”
“Even when all the provinces are handed over, we will still be providing a force to mentor and back up the Iraqi army and police, and to protect coalition supply routes,” he said. “But I can tell you that by the end of next year I expect numbers of British forces in Iraq to be significantly lower – by a matter of thousands.”
Britain has more than 7,000 British troops in Iraq, primarily in the south; At the height of the conflict, there were about 46,000. Browne said the British military presence in Iraq would be determined by officials in London and Baghdad.
Also on Monday Polish President Lech Kaczynski said his country, a U.S. ally in Iraq and Afghanistan, would pull its remaining 900 soldiers out of Iraq by the end of 2007. And Italian Premier Romano Prodi said the last of Italy's soldiers in Iraq – some 60-70 troops – will return home this week, ending the Italian contingent's presence in the south of the country after more than three years.
In a speech to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, a foreign policy think-tank, Browne also warned Iran that it faces increasing isolation if it does not use its influence in Iraq constructively, but he spared Syria from similar criticism.
“Its foreign minister – the first senior-ranking Syrian official to visit Iraq since Saddam Hussein's fall – has re-established diplomatic ties and stated that Damascus is ready to engage in dialogue, and work for stability in Iraq and the region,” he said. “But, as ever, we need to see actions to match the words.”
Browne, singling out Iran, said the Islamic republic's support of insurgents is unacceptable and counterproductive.
“Iran must start seeing Iraq not as a tool in a wider confrontation with the West, but as a vital interest in its own right,” Browne said. “Iran's interest is in a stable, non-aggressive Iraq. So the message to Iran is simple; Be a constructive partner, help yourself as well as the wider region, or face increasing isolation.”
Last week, Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said Britain may be able to hand over security responsibility in the southern port city of Basra by the spring of next year. Britain also hopes to hand security control over to the Iraqis in the province of Maysan, on the Iranian border, in January.
British commitment in Iraq to be 'significantly' reduced by end of 2007
By Jennifer Quinn
ASSOCIATED PRESS
10:30 a.m. November 27, 2006
LONDON – Thousands of British soldiers will leave Iraq over the next year, significantly downgrading the country's commitment in the region, the defense secretary said Monday. Poland and Italy also announced the impending withdrawal of their remaining troops.
The reduction of British troops will occur as control of two southern provinces is transferred to Iraqi forces, although Defense Secretary Des Browne insisted that “handover does not mean withdrawal.”
“Even when all the provinces are handed over, we will still be providing a force to mentor and back up the Iraqi army and police, and to protect coalition supply routes,” he said. “But I can tell you that by the end of next year I expect numbers of British forces in Iraq to be significantly lower – by a matter of thousands.”
Britain has more than 7,000 British troops in Iraq, primarily in the south; At the height of the conflict, there were about 46,000. Browne said the British military presence in Iraq would be determined by officials in London and Baghdad.
Also on Monday Polish President Lech Kaczynski said his country, a U.S. ally in Iraq and Afghanistan, would pull its remaining 900 soldiers out of Iraq by the end of 2007. And Italian Premier Romano Prodi said the last of Italy's soldiers in Iraq – some 60-70 troops – will return home this week, ending the Italian contingent's presence in the south of the country after more than three years.
In a speech to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, a foreign policy think-tank, Browne also warned Iran that it faces increasing isolation if it does not use its influence in Iraq constructively, but he spared Syria from similar criticism.
“Its foreign minister – the first senior-ranking Syrian official to visit Iraq since Saddam Hussein's fall – has re-established diplomatic ties and stated that Damascus is ready to engage in dialogue, and work for stability in Iraq and the region,” he said. “But, as ever, we need to see actions to match the words.”
Browne, singling out Iran, said the Islamic republic's support of insurgents is unacceptable and counterproductive.
“Iran must start seeing Iraq not as a tool in a wider confrontation with the West, but as a vital interest in its own right,” Browne said. “Iran's interest is in a stable, non-aggressive Iraq. So the message to Iran is simple; Be a constructive partner, help yourself as well as the wider region, or face increasing isolation.”
Last week, Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said Britain may be able to hand over security responsibility in the southern port city of Basra by the spring of next year. Britain also hopes to hand security control over to the Iraqis in the province of Maysan, on the Iranian border, in January.
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Well we were supposed to have the deal already. If the US isn't making good on their promises that's their problem. They've known what we wanted from the beginning - I don't see how they could have thought lying in public would satisfy us, given this isn't about face.
All I can assume is that some problems have slowed the negotiation process, which can be resolved.
OK well thats the Aircraft, now what about the really fancy bits, that make such a difference to capability and performance, but which do not technically qualify as "Aircraft"