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Great article ! ...
And here comes the big question: will the Type 26 programme include the purchase of something to put into the MK41?

hope the answer won't come from the link in my preceding post, which would be
Filling it, though, is an interesting problem because the Royal Navy has nothing in service or nothing in pre-assessment phase listed by the National Audit Office that could be deployed to make use of the capability.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
just great:
Well, the article does explore numerous possibilities, including quotes from various RN personnel.

They have a lot of time...and I am relatively sure that the RN will have selected an appropriate missiles (or missiles) and insured that they are integrated with the Mk-41 system they intend for the Type 26 FFGs.

The article talks about the Tomahawk, the Scalp, the Naval Strike Missile/Joint Strike Missile, and the LRASM.

Of course the Tomahawk is already integrated into the Mk-41, and the LRASM will be.

I believe it is safe to bet, with the amount of time they have for this, that the Type 26 will come out with a very decent ASM capability. And apparently they intend both land attack and ant-shipping to be in the mix, which, of course the Mk 41 can handle.

Tomahawk IV and LRASM are naturals.

SCALP and NSM/JSM could easily be ready in the time frames we are speaking of.
 

Obi Wan Russell

Jedi Master
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Regarding the top speed of RN warships, one should take official statements with a pinch of salt. The Invincible class were for years quoted as being able to make 28 knots, but from the mid 90s onwards interviews with ships officers r4evealed they could make 30 knots. Similarly for all the other major surface units at the time described as 28 knot ships.
The QEC are even more derided for being 25 knot ships (regardless of the fact that most RN carriers (including the older cat and trap ones) only needed to make 25 knots to launch aircraft.
Great article(s).

I share Mr T's concern over the 26 knot speed. However, lots of really good info.

I love the images of the vessel:

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Also, I felt this image says it all when you are looking at the hull form and actually how big a ship this will be.

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Really, IMHO, more a DDG.
The RN has a simple differentiation between Destroyers and Frigates; Destroyers have AREA Defence SAMS and are tasked primarily with air defence of ships other than themselves. Frigates only carry point defence SAMs to defend themselves. All other systems carried can be common to both types eg Radars, Sonars, ASW systems, Guns etc. Size is no longer a defining characteristic nor has it been for decades. The type 22 frigates were larger than the type 42 destroyers. It's the role that matters not the size.
 

Brumby

Major
hope the answer won't come from the link in my preceding post, which would be
The way I see the UK situation is not the lack of options in filling the Mk41 but rather funding given the ongoing trend towards national defence. I think if they are eventually able to procure 13 Type 26 it will be in itself a significant achievement. The next number failing that will be 8.
 
in recent links here I read, on one hand,
To reduce programme risk, and in keeping with the principles of through-life capability management, there is a drive to maximise pull-through from the Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers, Type 45 destroyers and ongoing Type 23 capability sustainment/upgrades, in an effort to both reduce risk and capitalise on previous investment, and/or existing system inventory. So while the Type 45 is characterised by approximately 80 per cent new to service equipment and 20 per cent reuse, these percentages will be effectively reversed for Type 26
but, on the other hand,
All good, the Mk41 is a widely used system with many options for filling it.

Filling it, though, is an interesting problem because the Royal Navy has nothing in service or nothing in pre-assessment phase listed by the National Audit Office that could be deployed to make use of the capability.
and the situation looks to be summarized by FORBIN
Weapons are buy after the ships.

one-billion-pounds, seven-thousand-tons ships sailing with empty VLS? I realized they likely would, just look at Type 45 ... related questions will follow in my subsequent post
 
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