Jura The idiot
General
I'd recommend
the Otomat "family" (with the capability to attack ships/submarines/land)
I'd recommend
the Otomat "family" (with the capability to attack ships/submarines/land)
Well it is a typical case of "Would'a...should'a...could'a."
The fact is that now they have these missiles and they are MUCH better than nothing. Besides, the Harpoon to this day, particularly with its later updates, is an excellent ASuM.
Also, the Royal Navy has pretty much admitted that it is really just a stop-gap measure.
Ultimately they will have newer missiles.
My guess is that either the LRASM from the US Navy, or one of the other newer missiles will be used when the Harpoons are retired (Like the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile...or the Italian missiles).
SamuraiBlue
Captain
Dark horse being the type 10 VLS variant that is currently being developed at TRDI. Japan and Britain already had signed a technology transfer agreement so the British can acquire the license if she so please.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
UK strengthens its military position in Falklands
(Defensa.com) London announced it will increase its security measures in the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic, believing that there is a lively part of Argentina, you could try re-invade threat. Secretary of State for Defence, Michael Fallon said in Parliament that the islands will see increased security, among others by sending two Chinook transport helicopters and improved system air missiles. In addition, the government will spend about 180 million pounds ($ 270 million) to improve the main port of the island until 2017, as well as other defenses in the next decade, said Fallon. London spends every year millions of pounds in the security and maintenance of the islands, so the British presence there is disputed between racks even in the European country.
Before Fallon's speech in Parliament, the tabloid The Sun had claimed that the minister would announce sending additional troops to the islands, called Falklands by the British. Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, London rejected the decision to strengthen the defense system of the Falkland Islands to the lively from Argentina to re-invade threat. The Argentine Government reiterates that dialogue and negotiation, not weapons, are the only way to resolve the issue, said the president. It is a sad and unfortunate paradox a March 24, 39 years after the coup of 1976 that will feature the silence of many powers, is used to the Falkland Islands as a matter of election campaign in the UK and repeatedly invokes a war started 32 years ago by the genocidal dictatorship, which meant greater political, social, economic and cultural tragedy for the people of Argentina stressed.
Argentina's Foreign Ministry issued a statement claiming that the British Government uses, once again, the Falklands to justify increases in military spending. The paper argues that besides unlikely, it is absolutely unjustifiable that the ghost of a shake Argentina alleged threat to raise the British military budget and consolidate the growing militarization of the islands. The Argentine government again urged the United Kingdom to sit at the negotiating table. Argentina and Britain fought a war over the islands in 1982 after an invasion ordered by the military dictatorship that ruled the South American country.
Fallon, explained to the British parliament reviewing the military aspects affecting the Malvinas (Falkland Islands Defence Review). The British government spent on modernizing the military resources available to the islands 180 million pounds over the next ten years. Among the planned measures to modernize the system of communications headquarters in Mount Pleasant are included, allowing real-time transmission of information. Removal systems Rapier air defense missiles, replaced by new ones will also occur, and the presence of a patrol vessel will be maintained. Further reforms will place in the port Mare and replacement of electricity generation facilities in Mount Pleasant airfield. The living conditions of the troops were also improve performances as improved accommodation. In the Falklands UK maintains four Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft, said Rapier air defense missiles and about 1,200 troops.
The islands count again with helicopters, since the middle of this year will reach two Chinook that had been deployed in Afghanistan. This way you will have permanent air transport and responsiveness to any emergency after the helicopters were removed in 2006. In January defensa.com analyze in detail the military plans for the Malvinas / Falklands, confirming that the Rapier systems will be replaced with the terrestrial version of FLAADS called FLAADS (L) which in turn is derived from the Naval Sea Ceptor of MBDA, elected to the British frigates and also recently chosen by Brazil for future corvettes.
Back to bottling my Grenache
(Defensa.com) London announced it will increase its security measures in the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic, believing that there is a lively part of Argentina, you could try re-invade threat. Secretary of State for Defence, Michael Fallon said in Parliament that the islands will see increased security, among others by sending two Chinook transport helicopters and improved system air missiles. In addition, the government will spend about 180 million pounds ($ 270 million) to improve the main port of the island until 2017, as well as other defenses in the next decade, said Fallon. London spends every year millions of pounds in the security and maintenance of the islands, so the British presence there is disputed between racks even in the European country.
Before Fallon's speech in Parliament, the tabloid The Sun had claimed that the minister would announce sending additional troops to the islands, called Falklands by the British. Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, London rejected the decision to strengthen the defense system of the Falkland Islands to the lively from Argentina to re-invade threat. The Argentine Government reiterates that dialogue and negotiation, not weapons, are the only way to resolve the issue, said the president. It is a sad and unfortunate paradox a March 24, 39 years after the coup of 1976 that will feature the silence of many powers, is used to the Falkland Islands as a matter of election campaign in the UK and repeatedly invokes a war started 32 years ago by the genocidal dictatorship, which meant greater political, social, economic and cultural tragedy for the people of Argentina stressed.
Argentina's Foreign Ministry issued a statement claiming that the British Government uses, once again, the Falklands to justify increases in military spending. The paper argues that besides unlikely, it is absolutely unjustifiable that the ghost of a shake Argentina alleged threat to raise the British military budget and consolidate the growing militarization of the islands. The Argentine government again urged the United Kingdom to sit at the negotiating table. Argentina and Britain fought a war over the islands in 1982 after an invasion ordered by the military dictatorship that ruled the South American country.
Fallon, explained to the British parliament reviewing the military aspects affecting the Malvinas (Falkland Islands Defence Review). The British government spent on modernizing the military resources available to the islands 180 million pounds over the next ten years. Among the planned measures to modernize the system of communications headquarters in Mount Pleasant are included, allowing real-time transmission of information. Removal systems Rapier air defense missiles, replaced by new ones will also occur, and the presence of a patrol vessel will be maintained. Further reforms will place in the port Mare and replacement of electricity generation facilities in Mount Pleasant airfield. The living conditions of the troops were also improve performances as improved accommodation. In the Falklands UK maintains four Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft, said Rapier air defense missiles and about 1,200 troops.
The islands count again with helicopters, since the middle of this year will reach two Chinook that had been deployed in Afghanistan. This way you will have permanent air transport and responsiveness to any emergency after the helicopters were removed in 2006. In January defensa.com analyze in detail the military plans for the Malvinas / Falklands, confirming that the Rapier systems will be replaced with the terrestrial version of FLAADS called FLAADS (L) which in turn is derived from the Naval Sea Ceptor of MBDA, elected to the British frigates and also recently chosen by Brazil for future corvettes.
Back to bottling my Grenache
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
UK air assets are "modest" at best in the islands
4 x Typhoons
1 x refuelling tanker
1 x cargo transport
With two helos
But the question is not how many air assets they have the question is how many SSN are in the area?
RN SSN is the ace up the sleeve
4 x Typhoons
1 x refuelling tanker
1 x cargo transport
With two helos
But the question is not how many air assets they have the question is how many SSN are in the area?
RN SSN is the ace up the sleeve
Bernard
Junior Member
UK strengthens its military position in Falklands
(Defensa.com) London announced it will increase its security measures in the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic, believing that there is a lively part of Argentina, you could try re-invade threat. Secretary of State for Defence, Michael Fallon said in Parliament that the islands will see increased security, among others by sending two Chinook transport helicopters and improved system air missiles. In addition, the government will spend about 180 million pounds ($ 270 million) to improve the main port of the island until 2017, as well as other defenses in the next decade, said Fallon. London spends every year millions of pounds in the security and maintenance of the islands, so the British presence there is disputed between racks even in the European country........
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With in general a Type 23 or 45.
The Typhoons and these additional air defenses should handle about anything the Argentines could currently send against the Falklands by air...at least until more help arrived.
As you say, if an SSN is nearby...nothing from the sea will land on that island from the mainland either.
I think the UK is doing just enough to defend the island without over doing it.
Of course...if they fell asleep and were surprised somehow, then people would say they should have done more..
Jura The idiot
General
Jeff, my statement
sure can be considered a pub talk (I think I indeed posted while in the pub
... but still I thought I should get back to this, and after I found time for "some additional research", I'd like to say this:- there's a very interesting discussion about Naval Strategy, Armament etc. -- latest posts in the thread PLAN Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers
- the cost of the Daring-class project was £6.5b, so for additional one (maximum two) percent (based on price estimates I found in the Internet, and assuming "economy of scale" -- the Italians were arming the Orizzonte-class at about the same time), this:
- I know about the space for the Mk 41 VLS (I even looked into Jackson's Warships Inside Out where exactly it is but are you sure the RN has sufficient funds to install it (them)?
HMS Astute
Junior Member
SDSR News: UK will order 3rd aircraft carrier.