Type 081 LHD
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So...6-8 Type 071s, followed by three full deck Type 081s.
I guess the proof will be when we start seeing more Type 071s built...which we have yet to see, but which I do expect.
It will be interesting to see artists concepts of this Type 081 once it has been finalized and starts building. Something along the lines of an Ocean, or Dokdo?
Anyway, one large flat deck Type 081, accompanied by three Type 071s, and perhaps four or more Type 072 IIs or IIS, and protected by numerous modern PLAN DDGs and FFGs would be a fromidable amphibuious assault force.
Thanks for posting that article Sczepan. I certianly do hope for the sake of the PLAN fans that this article has some validity to it. We've all been through over the last few years the drill of the difftrent articles about the PLAN CV programme.
Personally if this is true I would like to see the drawings & final specfications of the design.
Personally if this is true I would like to see the drawings & final specfications of the design.
there has actually been quite a bit of discussion on chinese bbs regarding to attack helo carrier. It's been given the name Type 70 actually. The problem I had then and still now is the lack of naval helicopters in PLAN. It's fine and nice that you build something like this, but what are you going to put on it? Maybe the 40 ka-29 that was in negotiation? I don't know, but I don't see domestic options any time soon unless they decide to start producing naval Z-8s again.
Tough Melbroune a.k.a the Brithish Colossus/Majestetic class could be described as "proofed design" it really isen't applying to this case. Those ships are WWII era light fleet carriers and it that role quite good actually. But when the operational enviroment is about 70 years further in the future with little bit different requirement for just about anything fitted onboard time is really passing for the design.
But actually the complete acient design concept isen't the key issue in here. LHD's tough looking much like a carriers are essentially landingship docks from the main shipdesign concepts. And thats something which Collosus/Majestetic class isen't. Landingship docks are build around the docking well fitted to the rear of the ships and it dictates all the interional solutions in the ship from keel to the highest mast and from the stern to the bow. When you start designing landing ship docks, you hardly have any use for old WWII era aircraft carriers as they don't benefit you at all. Perhaps for the outer hull style and overall size but thats hardly an effort to do even without one.
But actually the complete acient design concept isen't the key issue in here. LHD's tough looking much like a carriers are essentially landingship docks from the main shipdesign concepts. And thats something which Collosus/Majestetic class isen't. Landingship docks are build around the docking well fitted to the rear of the ships and it dictates all the interional solutions in the ship from keel to the highest mast and from the stern to the bow. When you start designing landing ship docks, you hardly have any use for old WWII era aircraft carriers as they don't benefit you at all. Perhaps for the outer hull style and overall size but thats hardly an effort to do even without one.
What golly says is very true. I'm thinking that perhaps the writer of this article meant to write LPH instead of LHD.
Why would the Chinese build and LHD when they will eventually have three LPD's? This is a reason why the USN will build only LHA's now with no well deck...Basically a ship that will assist an amphipous landing with air assault with helos laden with marines, assault helos and VTOL aircraft...In the PLAN case they presently have neither.
Why would the Chinese build and LHD when they will eventually have three LPD's? This is a reason why the USN will build only LHA's now with no well deck...Basically a ship that will assist an amphipous landing with air assault with helos laden with marines, assault helos and VTOL aircraft...In the PLAN case they presently have neither.
I think you hit the money on that one, because another strategycenter article published in January listed the exact same two options you mention. Z-10 was also brought up, so maybe it's not exclusively for the army?
Does anyone have any ideas on the hovercraft design that might agument the type 71?
Golli, I'd like to protest. The PLAN don't need LPDs, they need amphibious carriers to protect the landing fleet and the beaching ground.
So I'd like to add attack helos and light wight attack role fighters - also to be used for training - like the L-15 Falcon in priority;
for that the ship need a small catapulte (like the ole Melbourne has, that would be big enough).
When they could pick up some transport helos to, it's not harmful - but it would be suicide to miss the airshield - and for that you really could miss the dock.
So I'd like to add attack helos and light wight attack role fighters - also to be used for training - like the L-15 Falcon in priority;
for that the ship need a small catapulte (like the ole Melbourne has, that would be big enough).
When they could pick up some transport helos to, it's not harmful - but it would be suicide to miss the airshield - and for that you really could miss the dock.
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Thats just waste of recources. Basicly you have two enourmous ships doing the task which could be given to single hull (or more ideally several hulls doing all the tasks). US Tarawa class is essentially a huge landingship dock with that exact airsupport ability.
We have discusssed this several times earlier. Melbourne is so small that it cannot operate any other planes effectly other than VSTOL planes. LHD design can do the same in additional to have the troop transporting ability alongside. With the prizetag of several normal LSD and one or two solely airsupport "melbournes", you can have several LHDs with equal landing ability as in the previous alternative but with greatly expanded airsupport ability in the event of more decks availble.
We have discusssed this several times earlier. Melbourne is so small that it cannot operate any other planes effectly other than VSTOL planes. LHD design can do the same in additional to have the troop transporting ability alongside. With the prizetag of several normal LSD and one or two solely airsupport "melbournes", you can have several LHDs with equal landing ability as in the previous alternative but with greatly expanded airsupport ability in the event of more decks availble.
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