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CasualObserver

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Why not just put two engines then?
That was the original plan, until they decided to scrap that and just continue with single engine models, it's an F-16-size aircraft anyway... TEI’s focus is entirely on the TF35000 (and the TF10000 to a lesser degree), so they decided to do everything re. the engine themselves...
 
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sequ

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Toygun will come in 3 variants as well as other EO systems:



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The Toygun on KE PT-5 has just "high-resolution IR imaging" according to Baykar which means less than megapixel resolution, most likely to be 640*512px or 1024*768px.

Toygun for Kaan should be in the megapixel range, e.g. 1280*1024px.

Toygun-300 for Kaan
Toygun-200 for KE and Anka-3?
Toygun-100 for small (loyal wingman-like) drones?
 

sequ

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They are planning to conduct Gökdogan firing tests with Kizilema in the coming days:

"As a result of the real firing test we will conduct with the Gökdoğan missile in the coming days, we will provide our KIZILELMA aircraft with air-to-air firing capability."

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Gloire_bb

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Why not just put two engines then?
Tbf at some point they probably stopped and evaluated their resources. For one, twin engine Kizilelma is going to be ~another aircraft in roughly same shape and form, and the current one at best will serve as a proof/demonstrator.
Furthermore, engine situation is already bad(it's same engine with JL-10, meaning exact same problems with supplier), increasing demand by a factor of two won't really help. Two AI-25? Well, kinda, but it's a scrapyard 60 year old engine. It isn't a viable solution to move forward, especially to fit topline equipment Baykar is eyeing for their drone.

And if you hope for your own engine - do one. It's just more volume efficient. Plus, again, no need for complete redevelopment of insides, stronger engine can still fit in roughly similar airframe.
 

sequ

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Sources claiming Kizilelma engaged in mock combat with F-16:

HISTORIC TEST FROM BAYRAKTAR KIZILELMA: LOCKED ONTO F-16, FULL HIT IN SIMULATED FIRING! Turkey's first unmanned fighter jet Bayraktar KIZILELMA has once again signed off on a historic test in the skies. In the test involving two F-16 fighter jets belonging to the Turkish Air Force, KIZILELMA, which locked onto the target F-16 with the national AESA Radar MURAD, achieved a full hit in the simulated firing test conducted with the national air-to-air missile GÖKDOĞAN.

 

TheFuture_NoMore

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It’ll be cool to see how Pakistan can network it into the existing C&C infrastructure. Wonder if AWACs will serve as control node directly or they’ll use a two seater (F-16 or JF-17).

Most likely integrate it with their Link 17, right? That is the core datalink for Pakistan. Since both countries have a working relationship, it should not be difficult to integrate in the same way that Chinese systems are successfully integrated. The only problem for integrtion tends to be American platforms where there are so many restrictions on modifications.
 
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