Trump 2.0 official thread

iewgnem

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Well, just go back to RedNote then! It's just about the first anniversary of the socmed refugee crisis anyway.

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It's actually pretty cute how Americans are trying to influence the algorithm they can't control by brute force censoring everything instead.

For a long time I thought the proverb "there is no 300 pound of silver under this sign" (此地无银三百两)couldn't be real because nobody could possible be that dumb. Then you see Americans just brute force censoring the word "Epstein" thinking it'll make people who see it stop believing US government is run by pedos lol
 

siegecrossbow

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It's actually pretty cute how Americans are trying to influence the algorithm they can't control by brute force censoring everything instead.

For a long time I thought the proverb "there is no 300 pound of silver under this sign" (此地无银三百两)couldn't be real because nobody could possible be that dumb. Then you see Americans just brute force censoring the word "Epstein" thinking it'll make people who see it stop believing US government is run by pedos lol

They were dominant in the propaganda field for so long that they don’t know how to censor effectively now that they’ve lost the edge. Kinda like how Superman doesn’t know how to fight properly when he loses his powers.
 

AlexYe

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Mystery solved. Alex Pretti was of Jewish descent…

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So ICE is Gestapo + HAMAs now???
Netanyahu has already said that 'hitler didnt want to kill the jews, it was the palestinians who convinced him' so from his piv gestapo+hamas it is
Shit... I didn't want them to be smart enough to de-escalate. I wanted to see them crank it up until it's full civil war and the whole house comes tumbling down. Hopefully the people realize it's not nearly enough.
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Even the retard who said he'd put a 100% tariff on New Yorkers moving to Texas is saying this shit is too crazy:
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They werent really getting what they wanted, it backfired amazingly and the some people that are seeing the writing on the wall are abandoning ship INCASE they get implicated later.
It’s hard to think of a future for them without their biggest and most powerful neighbor who is also the world’s Sole superpower at the moment. So it’s normal their economy and military relies heavily on the US. It’s like expecting Mongolia to detach herself from reliance on China. lol Just not possible even if they wanted to. Geography doesn’t play in their favour
All that is fair, but that doesnt mean they should bend the knee and give $30 bn worth of money for F35's which wont even work if US changes its mind and does a 'special military operation'
 

Lethe

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I came across this article, The US would fly its aircraft into Canadian airspace if the deal of 88 F-35 fails. Is it true? That sounds outrageous.

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It has been gratifying to see Canada's political culture actually contest the selection of F-35 over the years, in a way that the political cultures of so many other client states of the American empire have not. In Australia, we just meekly accepted F-35 as a corollary of the broader strategy of "all the way with USA". Labor in opposition made a few noises about seeking access to the F-22, but once in government they quickly clarified that that was just for show. But what I don't understand is how Gripen comes to be seen as the leading alternative offering meaningfully greater sovereignty than F-35. The F414 engine is American and Washington can embargo it anytime they feel like it. Either sovereign capability matters, and therefore neither aircraft is acceptable, or it doesn't and F-35 is therefore a relatively strong proposition in a rather thin field.
 
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siegecrossbow

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It has been gratifying to see Canada's political culture actually contest the selection of F-35 over the years, in a way that the political cultures of so many other client states of the American empire have not. But what I don't understand is how Gripen comes to be seen as the leading alternative offering meaningfully greater sovereignty than F-35. The F414 engine is American and Washington can embargo it anytime they feel like it. Either sovereign capability matters, and therefore neither aircraft is acceptable, or it doesn't and F-35 is therefore a relatively strong proposition in a rather thin field.

Canada’s best bet is to shelf the fighter altogether and go asymmetric.
 

Gloire_bb

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It has been gratifying to see Canada's political culture actually contest the selection of F-35 over the years, in a way that the political cultures of so many other client states of the American empire have not. But what I don't understand is how Gripen comes to be seen as the leading alternative offering meaningfully greater sovereignty than F-35. The engine is American and Washington can embargo it anytime they feel like it. Either sovereign capability matters, and therefore neither aircraft is acceptable, or it doesn't and F-35 is therefore a fairly strong contender.
Embargo won't switch off the plane(unlike F-35, btw).
I.e. it's a reasonable compromise, which also happens to add significant value to the mix(Hi Lo), as it significantly expands the force for given level of money. And plan A is still fighting with americans anyway.
Canada’s best bet is to shelf the fighter altogether and go asymmetric.
Tbh even if you're going full Iran/Vietnam, it's better to have fighters. Even v US.
The problem isn't that "fighters don't work against US" - they do. They should "just" rely on adequate enough, survivable enough, numerous enough and modern enough system.

Note that in most modern US campaigns, in specific engagements americans didn't necessarily had decisive edge (and in Vietnam, where they did, it wasn't necessarily decisive in their favour, while engaged by aircraft which were...modern, but weren't best available).

What US did have was some degree of tech edge(usually overestimated into "impossible") and reliably working equipment. Match this - and you can introduce a threat.
For better or worse, Gripen E in the coming ~10 years is a reasonably modern aircraft. Not a F-47, but it's certainly comparable to mig-21PF over Vietnam.
 
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