Trump 2.0 official thread

RoastGooseHKer

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“The general license means the de facto removal of controls China imposed in April 2025 and October 2022.”

“China will suspend or remove all of the retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since March 4, 2025, including China’s listing of certain American companies on its end user and unreliable entity lists.”

Questions:

1. Does it mean Beijing would remove not only the October 9th export control for one year, but also the April regimes (not just licensing, but also removing the entire licensing regime), meaning all previously controlled rare earths, include those for US defence end users, can now flow freely?

2. China’s post liberation day retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. was reduced to 10% per previous negotiation. Is the this 10% gone now; thus the overall US-China tariff rate will now stand at roughly 47%:22%, a full 25% gap Beijing needs to swallow?
 

arthur2046

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2. China’s post liberation day retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. was reduced to 10% per previous negotiation. Is the this 10% gone now; thus the overall US-China tariff rate will now stand at roughly 47%:22%, a full 25% gap Beijing needs to swallow?
During the Trump 2.0 era, the latest U.S. tariffs on China consist of a 20% levy(10% Fentanyl-related tariff + 10% reciprocal tariff). China's retaliatory measures include imposing an average 20% tariffand other countermeasures. The 25% tariff difference originated during the Trump 1.0 period, to which China also responded with tariff increases and other retaliatory actions.
 

Elevenz

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“The general license means the de facto removal of controls China imposed in April 2025 and October 2022.”

“China will suspend or remove all of the retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since March 4, 2025, including China’s listing of certain American companies on its end user and unreliable entity lists.”

Questions:

1. Does it mean Beijing would remove not only the October 9th export control for one year, but also the April regimes (not just licensing, but also removing the entire licensing regime), meaning all previously controlled rare earths, include those for US defence end users, can now flow freely?

2. China’s post liberation day retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. was reduced to 10% per previous negotiation. Is the this 10% gone now; thus the overall US-China tariff rate will now stand at roughly 47%:22%, a full 25% gap Beijing needs to swallow?

Feel free to choose who you want to believe but personally seems like winology to me based off the past. As others have said it seems to be a mix of omission and tricky wording that isn’t technically lying besides the fact only October was mentioned on Chinese side. Anyways even if it was exactly as the US says they are gonna break the deal in a month like last time and we will be back to tensions anyways. Look at the recent Cotton tweet.
 

GulfLander

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Reposting here FT article
US accused of ‘bully-boy’ tactics to sink climate deal
Trump administration officials warned of additional trade tariffs and made personal threats against negotiators from other countries to block a historic climate deal for shipping, said people present at the talks.

More than 10 diplomats, officials from other governments and industry observers told the Financial Times that the US ripped up normal global diplomacy rules and used “bully-boy tactics” to derail the UN-backed Net Zero Framework for global shipping at meetings in London last month.

A phalanx of US officials intimidated African and small Pacific and Caribbean island countries into dropping support for the framework, which would have imposed a carbon emissions levy on shipping, according to people present at the talks at the headquarters of the UN’s International Maritime Organization in London. The US group included eight people, according to one person present.

The intimidation included approaching country officials during coffee breaks to warn them they might not be able to transit via the US, or that they and their families could face restrictions on entering the country if they acted against American interests, according to five people at the talks, including two from countries that were directly threatened.

US President Donald Trump has branded the framework a “global green new scam tax on shipping”, and in a social media post last month called for it to be blocked.
Creon Butler, head of global economy at Chatham House, said breaking with diplomatic tradition and using leverage to force other countries to comply with its approach to issues such as climate change carried long-term risks for US influence.
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zbb

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“The general license means the de facto removal of controls China imposed in April 2025 and October 2022.”

“China will suspend or remove all of the retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since March 4, 2025, including China’s listing of certain American companies on its end user and unreliable entity lists.”

Questions:

1. Does it mean Beijing would remove not only the October 9th export control for one year, but also the April regimes (not just licensing, but also removing the entire licensing regime), meaning all previously controlled rare earths, include those for US defence end users, can now flow freely?

2. China’s post liberation day retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. was reduced to 10% per previous negotiation. Is the this 10% gone now; thus the overall US-China tariff rate will now stand at roughly 47%:22%, a full 25% gap Beijing needs to swallow?
Almost all of the Chinese restrictions on critical minerals applied to all countries. While the timing of many of the Chinese measures came right after US escalations against China, they were officially stated as measures to ensure global peace and security and not targeting any particular country. In other words, most of the Chinese measures on critical minerals are not technically retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States.
 

RoastGooseHKer

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Almost all of the Chinese restrictions on critical minerals applied to all countries. While the timing of many of the Chinese measures came right after US escalations against China, they were officially stated as measures to ensure global peace and security and not targeting any particular country. In other words, most of the Chinese measures on critical minerals are not technically retaliatory non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States.
Probably got to wait a at least 2-3 months see the results of the most recent talks. Of course, there would then be another round of mutual escalation and refined rare earth export control.
 

RoastGooseHKer

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Unbelievable China and Russia are doing nuke test without live streaming them in 4k.
Im sooooo mad about this.
It would be a remarkable gift and opportunity for China to complete all the tests it had to stop back in the 90s under international pressure. And develop new warheads and further expand reprocessing capacity. The current comprehensive test ban benefits the U.S. and Russia the most. It effectively prevents late comers from developing similarly advanced warheads like those of U.S. and Russian ones. But if Washington chooses to throw its privilege away, Beijing would stand to gain the most since it now has the fastest developing dual-use nuclear industry. Very soon Beijing would be able to catch up in terms of warhead quality and quantity should it resume live tests.
 
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