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The story sounds like bullshit. It’s like they they took bits from things you’ve heard of before to get ideas from and added them together to make a story. Anybody remember those mysterious boats off Japan where they found dead North Korean fishermen on them. Mini-subs to sneak in Navy Seals? Ever play Call of Duty? There was a scenario just like that. Ever hear before of stabbing the lungs of bodies so they don’t float in the water? Yeah if you watched the crime drama True Detective that was a way someone got rid of bodies in the water so they don’t float. Oh yeah… secret mission. They can reveal it because it wasn’t true. They’re admitting to an act of war where they accidentally committed murder of civilians instead. If the North Koreans makes fuss about it, they can just deny it happened because it’s the stuff of Hollywood. How convenient. It’s like the Chinese embassy bombing. A lot of Americans would rather admit it was intentional to cover-up that the perfect US could made a mistake. Are the North Koreans going to start a war over something that never happened? Wouldn’t you rather place this secret technology “close” to gather communications instead of figuring out some nowhere place they can slip some tall Caucasians into. If their technology didn’t need to be placed close, then why couldn’t they just place it across the border in South Korea where it would be safer? And all this just so Trump could get intel advantage of what for his meeting with Kim Jong Un for high-level nuclear talks in Hanoi that went nowhere? Shouldn't the Navy Seals have placed this equipment in Vietnam? Trump advisor Stephen Miller was responsible for information that was given out mentioning fictional equipment that was from Call of Duty. How hard is it for someone like that to dream up a fictional scenario like this? All for what? So the US can look cool?
Of course. The US and CIA needs to look cool in front of the world. Otherwise they will lose face and have a hard time recruiting for new young people into the armed services.
 

henrik

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Lol who will china carry out such operations against? Moroever, China has a non interventionist policy which they rightly abide to. By contrast other powers like Tthe US,RUSSIA, UK, France, snd even regional ones like Iran,Turkey, etc etc don't have such policies so you are likely to find such clandestine operations involving this countries, though might hardly here about it.
Its good that china since Mao's death adopted a policy of non intervention and non involvement in other countries, it helps mitigate the risks of failures and consequences that might follow. Its better to avoid such intanglements and focus on economic/industrial development like China has been doing.

China should master such skills involving covert activities. Whether they will use it is another issue. They need the knowledge as other countries may perform the same covert activities on China.
 

Michael90

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So... Cold War 2.0 & Pax Americana ends, just like that? Ok then...
Well, the US has its own internal issues thst they need to address to better compete with China and other developing countries this coming decades as the developing world keeps growing . So its bad thing to also focus internally. Of course that doesn't mean the US is abondoning its pax americans doctrine or commitment entirely, far from it. It will carry on with its presence and influence globally, but priority will be at home.

On another note, TRUMP doesnt seem to be ready to give India a break until India finally picks a side for once. Funny enough i am one of the few westerners who always believed India will be a long term threat to us as well in future just like China today, so i think Trump is not actually wrong to cut India to size and make them mske concessions now that the US is still far dominant in the relationship and has all the leverage to force her will/policy over India. Its not a bad move, and i dont think we should facilitate its rise, so unfortunately for India her rise wont go under the radar and ignorantly as China dif back from the 80s to 2010s. So it will face much more restrictions, obstruction and protectionism from the West. Some interesting points i highlited and found interesting in the article about what Trump administration chief trade/commerce officisl said about India. Shows you what Trump administration thinks about New Delhi which isnt entirely wrong and Indis will have to get used to this new normal. Lol

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“They [India] are a vowel between Russia and China. If that’s who you want to be, go be it. But either support the dollar, support the US, support your biggest client, who is the American consumer, or, I guess you’re going to ban 50 per cent tariff,” he said.

"They [India] need to decide which side they want to be on. You know what’s funny is, remember the Chinese sell to us. The Indians sell to us. They’re not going to be able to sell to each other. We are the consumers of the world. People have to remember, it’s our $30 trillion economy that is the consumer of the world.



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