Trump 2.0 official thread
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Americans do not truly understand China. The Chinese people do not want the U.S./Trump administration to soften or surrender so quickly. A America that capitulates prematurely would only make the Chinese feel their opponent is unworthy, turning the "game" dull and meaningless. Even victory would bring no satisfaction—China has yet to experience the thrill of battle.
The Chinese anticipate that the U.S. must at minimum hold firm on 100% tariffs against China for 3 to 6 months. Seeing America retreat within mere weeks would disappoint. Observers should also recognize that Sino-U.S. decoupling is a strategic nuclear-level policy maneuver for both sides. Once triggered, there is no turning back.
If China decides to decouple from the U.S., it will be a long-term, unwavering commitment. China has no interest in playing America’s “three steps forward, two steps back” game. Unlike the U.S., which whimsically imposes tariffs to pressure rivals and hastily revokes them when self-interest falters, China will not mimic such capriciousness. Doing so would neuter its own greatest strategic weapon.
In time, Americans will realize they unintentionally ignited a war they never wanted. China has long prepared for this conflict; America has not. And China has no intention of granting the U.S. a chance to undo its moves.
For China, war is not a casual decision driven by fleeting emotions. War is a grave matter for the nation and its people, demanding utmost prudence. Once war is declared, it must continue until the enemy is forced to pay a devastating price—one so severe it deters future recklessness. Otherwise, if China bends to the enemy’s rhythm—allowing them to attack or retreat at will—the adversary could perpetually strike at moments most advantageous to them. China’s own strategic cadence would collapse under such harassment, ensuring defeat.
Thus, if this tariff war ends without genuine harm inflicted on the U.S., China’s withdrawal would only embolden further American provocations until China’s eventual defeat. There is no need to worry about China, however. The Chinese see far and think deep, fully aware of America’s limits and their own vulnerabilities and strengths.
Unless the U.S. tastes true calamity—a disaster-level consequence—China will grant no further opportunities. At present, America has yet to suffer real substantive damage. This war will not end.
War is begun at will, but not ended at will.
Yeah, exactly.
Once those tariffs went to over 100% on both sides, that meant a total trade embargo by both sides on the other.
In short, trading with each other was over.
That is decoupling, that is what the Americans wanted, and the Chinese finally gave up and said the hell with it. This is still business, and sometimes in business, it does not work out, and you walk away.
The Chinese walked away.
Personally speaking, I mentally checked, it was over. It was clearly over.
The good thing, was that it was a clean divorce.
But, maybe it is not a divorce yet. In divorce proceedings in the real world, from what I understand, both parties have to sign the papers. China signed and already out the door. But the Americans won't sign!
WTF?
I though that was what they wanted?
They want the house, 90 percent of the stocks/cash, and half of the husband’s income in the divorce settlement.
Yeah tell that orange bitch who’s boss. Really, he start the fight with intent to kill, he should be the one to compensate, otherwise no dice. Who does he think he is anyway. If someone turned up to your house with a knife, one must be prepared with at least a shotgun and a spare handgun so that if he succeeds in breaking down the door with knives drawn, at bare minimum, then the attacker needs to be crippled to the point where he can no longer hold a blade ever again. Seriously the USA needs to learn the word consequences, otherwise the nation will never change for the better
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lcloo
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In about 2 weeks from today, a lot of shelves in Walmart and other retail outlets will be empty as the pre-Tariff inventory will be depleted. And in a month or two, many outlets will be closed due to unprofitability as they have no goods to sell, and people will start to lose their jobs.
Port workers, truck drivers, storekeepers, supermarket staff, office workers, and anyone that deals with imported Chinese made goods, their futures are bleak.
Port workers, truck drivers, storekeepers, supermarket staff, office workers, and anyone that deals with imported Chinese made goods, their futures are bleak.
Are you referring to the Indian owned steel plant in Port Talbot that shuttered its blast furnaces last year?
If so, not to the best of my knowledge.
Musk will be wise to step away from the spotlight, but his investment in the MAGA movement may or may not end up a write-off.
Trump is almost 80 years old, but J.D. Vance, who is considered a protege of Peter Thiel and by extension one of "Musk's boys" is only 40 years old, and Vance isn't the only Musk surrogate occupying a senior role in government.
As such, "this show" might drag on for years or even decades to come: in part because as flawed as MAGA might be, it emerged because the most prominent alternatives were equally, if not even more dysfunctional.
Could this be China's goal? It would create a lot of political pressure on Trump to either cave or it could ignite social unrest. Large scale social unrest, riots, martial law and the like could be enough to keep the US occupied while AR.
How it is going with MAGA 8d chess of using the trade war to coerce countries to decouple from Chyna