Trump 2.0 official thread

another505

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Your logic: Too strong? Then just drop dead and roll over for daddy!

Imagine if everyone thought that way. What would Ukraine, Palestine, Taliban, Houthi, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, and all sorts of countries and organisations do when superior enemies emerged.
Pathetic


"In case Hitler drops dead we should try and buy as many as 3rd Reich armaments. No way daddy Hitler would attack us!"



Taliban: just drop dead and let Americans get Afghanistan. Desert, mountains would eat us alive. "The american force could leave the country side to rot". We are helpless, we want to surrender to daddy Trump lol


Didn't even try to think that US interior would be devastated after all economic global sanctions against US companies, did you? What about their troop willingness to come and having to fight constant guerilla? What about foreign threats popping up all over the world and taking advantage of US distraction and thus interfere? Espionage, funding, supplies by massive number unmanned systems etc

Seeing this big patriotism and conviction, imo daddy should just go ahead and annex Canada
lmao, okay, you go fight pick up at fire arm after the buyback and start fighting back. Go live in a winter forest in North West Territory or something.

I do not have a huge patriotism to Canada when im also Chinese lol. Canada did get into this problem in the first place but aligning so much with USA especially house arresting Meng Wanzhou, and the past 15 years of barely any infrastructure improvements, housing crisis, and F-35 saga. Every other year I return to China and see massive improvements while people in Canada sit on their high horses and judge harshly about china while doing nothing to improve the country. Spending the last decade on identity politics and virtue signalling to the indigenous instead of actually improving people's life.

I would say Carney is doing an okay job in fighting back in diplomacy and economically, making trade agreement with China is a first step and leaning into secondary powers.

But my point why trump drop dead is because there seems to be no successor to him and he does seems to be on the cusp of dying. MAGA movement might just die with him. Or maybe a good ol civil war down there.

And if an invasion of canada does happen, the chance of winning isn't determined by F-35 or J-39, but USA own division about the invasion.

By themselves, no.
But it's possible to create a significant enough defensive system against USAF - US is not a magic state. Granted, aircraft are icing on the cake of such system rather than its basis, but this is a price for Canada's own planning mistakes.
As western "allies" found out, those who can't even resist aren't really valuable.

80 F-35s don't add any longer competitiveness when compared to 40.
What they do add is x2 stronger day 1 capability in offensive strikes, and lower chance of losing pilots in foreign adventures under US lead.
But realistically, 40 is 100% enough for these participations.
Same is true for single largest selling point for F-35 - aka its combination of LO and data fusion, which benefits rest of the force. This is indeed a major argument - problem is, mono force of F-35s doesn't gather qualitively different data from 1/2 amount of F-35s, there's just no "rest of force" to benefit from it.

Otherwise, Stealth or not, Gripen E is a newer aircraft than F-35, and there's significantly more of them, cheaper(esp. over time) at a similar pricepoint. While they can't pen without taking attrition - everything else, they can, including things F-35 can't and won't be able to do(escort jamming).
Furthermore, SAAB does their usual thing and sticks an entire sovereign AEW capability with secondary maritime patrol into the price margin.

Frankly speaking, mixed force design is such an obvious no-brainer(as compared to aggressive all black ford campaign), that as soon as F-35 stop being ticket into white man's privilege, it shouldn't even be discussed.

40 on the fleet, but let's be realistic, with around 50 percent readiness that F-35 has, that is just a meagre 20. Having sufficient quantity of one plane helps logistics and maintenance, I think China understands and does that well in every production.

I cannot imagine J-39 useful past something 2045.

Regardless, Canada doesn't procure by military needs, but politics, that is why Trudeau jumped on the boat to stop procuring F-35 back in 2015 when it was popular to hate on the F-35.
So in the end, i wouldn't be surprised we get some gripens just to pat their backs and say "we did it! We really showed the US!" or even more realistically.... just not make a decision till 2029.
 

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wuguanhui

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Neither Gripens or F-35 will make any difference against the overwhelming power of the American Trumperium. I don't understand why Canadians even bother with a air force. The Soviets weren't going to waste bombs on you, they're trying to hit the fat retard behind you.

Canada's best deterrent against Anschluss is a Dead Hand system that will blow up all the oil wells in Alberta, hand out citizenship to a billion brown people and release the Epstein files.
 
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