Trump 2.0 official thread

Temstar

Temstar

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RedBaron said:
So this is what happens when you elect a US president who is willing to use American hard power to the full extent. US is effortlessly getting whatever the hell it wants and there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it.
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It's not actually a good thing, even for America. As far as imperial expansions go you want to grab highly developed areas of the world that can contribute to your empire's internal economics. So we're talking Japan, South Korea, Western Europe. If instead you grab poorly developed areas like Eastern Europe or Latin America it weakens the empire since you're either:

1. Don't do much with those areas, so no investment to better them nor extracting much value, so its just costing you militarily to hold onto them
2. Invest into those area, costing you resources today in hope for future pay off, something that US used to be good at but is no longer the case. Soviet Union did this with Eastern Europe and some of its socialist republics

With 38 trillion in the hole US needs to extract value today, not decades down the line. Grabbing Venezuela or Greenland doesn't help here, particularly if you factor in the political cost. Trump is doing his own version of
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, it didn't work out so well when Brezhnev tried it.
 
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The latest, and rather unexpected, target of Trump's ire: defense contractors.

All United State Defense Contractors, and the Defense Industry as a whole, BEWARE: While we make the best Military Equipment in the World (No other Country is even close!), Defense Contractors are currently issuing massive Dividends to their Shareholders and massive Stock Buybacks, at the expense and detriment of investing in Plants and Equipment. This situation will no longer be allowed or tolerated!

Also, Executive Pay Packages in the Defense Industry are exorbitant and unjustifiable given how slowly these Companies are delivering vital Equipment to our Military, and our Allies. Salaries, Stock Options, and every other form of Compensation are far too high for these Executives. Defense Companies are not producing our Great Military Equipment rapidly enough and, once produced, not maintaining it properly or quickly. From this moment forward, these Executives must build NEW and MODERN Production Plants, both for delivering and maintaining this important Equipment, and for building the latest Models of future Military Equipment. Until they do so, no Executive should be allowed to make in excess of $5 Million Dollars which, as high as it sounds, is a mere fraction of what they are making now. Additionally, the maintenance and repair of Equipment, once sold, is far too slow, and must be immediately enhanced. As President, I am demanding that maintenance be “spot on, on time.”

Therefore, I will not permit Dividends or Stock Buybacks for Defense Companies until such time as these problems are rectified — Likewise, for Salaries and Executive Compensation. MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS NOT BEING MADE FAST ENOUGH! It must be built now with the Dividends, Stock Buybacks, and Over Compensation of Executives, rather than borrowing from Financial Institutions, or getting the money from your Government. Longer term, this is good for both Executives and Shareholders, because it will be GREAT for our Country! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

DONALD J. TRUMP

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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And Raytheon got singled out for its own post.

I have been informed by the Department of War that Defense Contractor, Raytheon, has been the least responsive to the needs of the Department of War, the slowest in increasing their volume, and the most aggressive spending on their Shareholders rather than the needs and demands of the United States Military. Raytheon seems to think this is the Biden Administration, and this is “business as usual,” IT’S NOT! Either Raytheon steps up, and starts investing in more upfront Investment like Plants and Equipment, or they will no longer be doing business with Department of War. Also, if Raytheon wants further business with the United States Government, under no circumstances will they be allowed to do any additional Stock Buybacks, where they have spent Tens of Billions of Dollars, until they are able to get their act together. Our Country comes FIRST, and they’re going to have to learn that, the hard way!
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Temstar said:
It's not actually a good thing, even for America. As far as imperial expansions go you want to grab highly developed areas of the world that can contribute to your empire's internal economics. So we're talking Japan, South Korea, Western Europe. If instead you grab poorly developed areas like Eastern Europe or Latin America it weakens the empire since you're either:

1. Don't do much with those areas, so no investment to better them nor extracting much value, so its just costing you militarily to hold onto them
2. Invest into those area, costing you resources today in hope for future pay off, something that US used to be good at but is no longer the case. Soviet Union did this with Eastern Europe and some of its socialist republics

With 38 trillion in the hole US needs to extract value today, not decades down the line. Grabbing Venezuela or Greenland doesn't help here, particularly if you factor in the political cost. Trump is doing his own version of
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, it didn't work out so well when Brezhnev tried it.
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You speak as if Trump will actually do any sort of nation building. Taking Greenland and Venezuela is just for the optics. For Venezuela, he kidnaps the president, threatens the others and get some oil from them, after which the current regime continues their existence. He will lower the embargo and everyone is happy. There is no long term plan to run Venezuela here even though he said so. For Greenland, he just make some announcement and send in some troops. We already have troops there so the cost is small and no country will do anything to oppose it. There will be little cost. It is all done for show and the mid term election. Now there is a cost. The reason we even claim to be rule based country when dealing with other countries is that it lowers the cost of running an empire. With the fig leaf removed, the cost of doing things for the U.S. is going to be higher in the future, but that is not what Trump is concerned about. He just wanted to win the midterm election.
 
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SanWenYu

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RedBaron said:
So this is what happens when you elect a US president who is willing to use American hard power to the full extent. US is effortlessly getting whatever the hell it wants and there's nothing the rest of the world can do about it.
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Not everyone is as reckless as the orange man. Wait for the world to respond to the bully in the coming years. Hitler's Germany appeared invincible for a few years, too.
 
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