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The exception is internet companies. Unfortunately, Baidu is a great example of what happens when you only have the first half of the strategy and not the second half. Not having to compete at all with Google, Baidu effectively became just a rent seeking company living off of a captive market and never became globally competitive.
There are fundamental differences between software and manufacturing. Hindering market access to companies like Google, Meta, and Amazon was the correct decision.
 

Maikeru

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No doubt the US will lose the tariff war, when it does it will be the Suez Canal moment for the US and the end of the US hegemony. Many say the Suez Canal crisis was the effective end of the British Empire when it passed the baton to the US. This time, it will happen not in the military sphere but in the trade sphere.
TBF it was the US induced run on GBP that caused UK to withdraw from Suez, not any military defeat. In fact in purely military terms the operation went pretty damn well.
 

JJD1803

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Apparently our favorite Harvard economist Stephen Miran had a meeting with top bond investors last Friday. Let’s just say it did not go well. Many of the investors felt they wasted their time. Apparently they said he was “incoherent.” His explanations of the tariffs as “incomplete.” And one said that Miran was “out of his depth.” Looks like when rhetoric met reality from really smart investors it completely fell apart. One quote from the FT article which explains what happens when you debate MAGA “When you have an audience that knows a lot, the talking point are taken apart pretty quickly.” The US is cooked. China is playing Go while the US is playing tick tack toe.
 
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Wrought

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Apparently our favorite Harvard economist Stephen Miran had a meeting with top bond investors last Friday. Let’s just say it did not go well. Many of the investors felt they wasted their time. Apparently they said he was “incoherent.” His explanations of the tariffs as “incomplete.” And one said that Miran was “out of his depth.” Looks like when rhetoric met reality from really smart investors it completely fell apart. One quote from the FT article which explains what happens when you debate MAGA “When you have an audience that knows a lot, the talking point are taken apart pretty quickly.” The US is cooked. China is playing Go while the US is playing tick tack toe.

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lych470

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When Tik-Tok USA was shutdown a few months ago, many Americans became Tik-Tok refugess and turned to Xiaohongshu or Red Note.

I wonder this time if there will be Tariff Refugees in the coming months? People who seek refuge in other countries that can provide cheap, affordable but comfortable life style, good food, exotic cultures, affordable medical cares, cheap accommodations etc that require less than US$1,500 to 2,000 a month.

If you are not committed to a job or college/university studies, why not take a 6 months or year long holidays in South East Asia to get away from the economic mayhem in the US, and fly occassionally from there to China for more holidays? China is giving 240 hours (10 days) stay visa free to US citizens and many others.

Last thing any of us want is more boorish Yankee tourists ruining things for locals, thank you very much.
 
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