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AssassinsMace

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The US technically was in a recession for two straight quarters during Obama’s term and this wasn’t revealed until later after it was over… if it was over. I was watching some Democrat House Rep being interviewed and he said what Trump did firing the official for reporting the truth was something that is only done in countries like Russia, China, and North Korea. No, it’s something that is indicative of democracies because politicians need to lie about their performance to have people vote for them. Or is it just the firing part like that never happens in the US because when it comes to politics, they fire everyone when the new administration comes in because they want loyal people that will lie for their leader in position before and not after. Is that the difference? Fire them before the crime ever happens.
 

Africablack

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The US technically was in a recession for two straight quarters during Obama’s term and this wasn’t revealed until later after it was over… if it was over. I was watching some Democrat House Rep being interviewed and he said what Trump did firing the official for reporting the truth was something that is only done in countries like Russia, China, and North Korea. No, it’s something that is indicative of democracies because politicians need to lie about their performance to have people vote for them. Or is it just the firing part like that never happens in the US because when it comes to politics, they fire everyone when the new administration comes in because they want loyal people that will lie for their leader in position before and not after. Is that the difference? Fire them before the crime ever happens.
To be fair, this sort of thing happens under autocracies too. Honestly, I don't understand why people get too caught up in forms of government, what really matters (for the most part) is the quality of people who are manning the system. Whether autocracy or liberal democracy, if the leadership is corrupt and/or incompetent they'll look for ways to undermine the system to their benefit. A Chinese style one party system may work great for China because its leaders are competent, that same system may be a disaster to another country somewhere if the ruling party is full of corrupt and visionless bastards.
 

AssassinsMace

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To be fair, this sort of thing happens under autocracies too. Honestly, I don't understand why people get too caught up in forms of government, what really matters (for the most part) is the quality of people who are manning the system. Whether autocracy or liberal democracy, if the leadership is corrupt and/or incompetent they'll look for ways to undermine the system to their benefit. A Chinese style one party system may work great for China because its leaders are competent, that same system may be a disaster to another country somewhere if the ruling party is full of corrupt and visionless bastards.
I was talking about the US politician that claims firing someone for telling the truth only happens in countries like Russia, China, and North Korea.
 

doggydogdo

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Dude im.sorry China during Mao's era was punching wayyyyyy below her weight. In fact they were one of the poorest country in Asia(very few countries in Asia were poorer than china back then). China was even poorer than India and Pakistan at one point. If china jad carried with those maoist policies they would have gotten even poorer and worse today, peobably the CCP would have being toppled actually by now. So we can say Deng brutal revolutionary reforms actually saved the party. China back then was just a bigger version of N.Korea. you can also say there are things N.Korea achieved in the 90s/2000s that S.Korea hasnt achieved today. Lol In fa t there are even things India jas achived in the 80s that S.Korea hasnt achived today. Lol But we all know who has been far more sucessful evonomically and industrially..S.Korea is actually punching wayyyyy above their weight for such a small country of 50million to be honest. If they had even half of your countrys size and population they will be even more powerful than now.
I mean North Korea also punches way above it's weight.

Also South Korean achievements are only impressive if they can keep it, US can take their progress away at whim like what we just saw lol. Trump asked for 500 billion dollars they just said yes. Saying it punches above it's weight is technically true but that's like saying Shanghai punches above it's weight. Both are not sovereign states so it's kinda meaningless.

Also if "Mao era" policies continued to today China would still have better living standards compared with 70% of the world. Peasants would at least own their own land instead of living in slums like most of the world.
 

hifisnow

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To be fair, this sort of thing happens under autocracies too. Honestly, I don't understand why people get too caught up in forms of government, what really matters (for the most part) is the quality of people who are manning the system. Whether autocracy or liberal democracy, if the leadership is corrupt and/or incompetent they'll look for ways to undermine the system to their benefit. A Chinese style one party system may work great for China because its leaders are competent, that same system may be a disaster to another country somewhere if the ruling party is full of corrupt and visionless bastards.
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