Training " a measure of dedication

Finn McCool said:

Is this during training or during your term of service?

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That is during the term of your contract, yes. Understand of course, that the typical regular infantryman would only take a few of those courses during his initial 3-year engagement.

Hmm that sounds pretty much same than with us. Expecially after all the basic training courses and major shooting camps and specially after our "end-war" or Finnish army biannual combined arms wargame, there weren't much training at all, and the last few weeks of our service we would just lay in the barracks or be on the leave (if anyone had some left).

Tough not in our battery. We had this new just gratuated leutenant put in charge of us conscripts and thus we had aful alot of what we toughted useless training in the last remaining weeks. For example in the seccond last week we eat all our meals out in the woods and had either shooting exercises or "how to build a fort"-type of stuff. And you can all imagine the motivation that is left for conscripts in the last weeks...not what you would call "inspired"

And you can all imagine the motivation that is left for conscripts in the last weeks...not what you would call "inspired"

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Oh yes I can..They all know they will be civillians soon again and the military will be just a distant dream..

In the USN we called sailors that knew they were leaving the Navy "Short-timers". Many of these guys were useless..

Gollevainen said:

Overweigth is proplem in all rich countries, same here in Finland. In our army, we have medical and fitness test and those determinates ones service class. Normal guys gets A and are trained to combat missions, and those who get B will serve in low key garrison service tasks such as libarians, swimming pool keepers ect. If one gets class C he will be send to home, or into psychological treatment.

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In SAF nearly everyone has to do at least some form of combat training.

The overweight is one class and they do a more "gentle" combat training during their longer 5 months BMT.

After that they could still be classified as PES A combat fit if they showed great improvement in losing weight.

For those that suffer minor physical disabilities like my friend was deaf in one ear but otherwise superfit, they also do a more relaxed BMT that also include some combat training. After that they will take up clerical jobs etc and are classified as PES C from the start.

Physical fitness..Humm In the US Military service members are tested twice anually via a performance test. In the Navy it consist of a 1.5 mile(2.4km) run or other arobic excersise, situps, push ups & flexiblity. The standards are based on age. All members are measured for body fat. Failure of the test could lead to dismissal from the service. The Army and USMC test more often I do believe.

bd popeye said:

Physical fitness..Humm In the US Military service members are tested twice anually via a performance test. In the Navy it consist of a 1.5 mile(2.4km) run or other arobic excersise, situps, push ups & flexiblity. The standards are based on age. All members are measured for body fat. Failure of the test could lead to dismissal from the service. The Army and USMC test more often I do believe.

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for the 2.4km run (or 6 lap run in our high school) what is the maximum time limit for that one in the navy

ahho said:

for the 2.4km run (or 6 lap run in our high school) what is the maximum time limit for that one in the navy

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It depends on your age. It ranges form 12:15 minutes for the youngest sailor to 16:08(I think) for the oldest.

Here's a link to a USN PRT(Physical Readiness Test) chart;